The Ronny Deila Thread

I don't think everyone approached the Molde games in an over confident manner and I don't think that we should change the system. I think you and the person you quoted are both wrong. I doubt everyone agrees with me though. Assuming everyone has the same opinion is rarely correct.

 

I used the term everyone in the context the poster I quoted used it. I for one was not overconfident against Molde if anything I was fearful. I took his "everyone" in the spirit he meant it and used it in my reply. That is what I meant when I said "I took the same license"

 

I personally was confident about Molde when i seen the draw....but became completely unconfident the minute they got that 3-3 against Fenerbahce.

 

They never got a 3-3 against Fenebache

 

My apologies, I don't agree with the other post either. I hate when folk say "everybody". Unless everyone's been asked then it's just bollocks.

 

I have yet to see anything that would remotely suggest we will not be leaking goals in Europe next season yet again. We are being cut open regularly by mediocre SPFL teams so my confidence for the qualifiers under RD is low. The system he deploys leaves us far too open to the counter attack be it against St. Johnstone, Malmo or whoever it may be. The finger can be pointed at certain players for mistakes but ultimately our system is too fragile for the players at our disposal and budget. Therefore if he wants to keep his job and get us into the CL group stages he needs to set the side up to play to it's strengths and not some system that is ok for players far superior to what we have or can afford.

 

Do you know, when i was writing that i knew it was wrong in some way, but couldnt be arsed checking it.....i just remembered my feelings of 'oh oh'.

 

They beat them 3-1 and got beat 2-0 as well. They weren't a good team but at least they played as a team.

 

Aye, since double checked.Yes, they did exactly that...they played as a team and maximised what they had.

 

In our last 5 games we've conceded 3 and scored 19. I'd hardly call that being "regularly cut open."

 

Not being punished isn't the same thing, we are still very susceptible to counter attacks.

 

Sure we may be susceptible, but that's exploring the realm of possibility, not what's actually happening against "mediocre SPFL sides" like that poster claimed.

 

Fair enough bud

 

No it's not, what's happening is in the SPFL we can be cut open and it not actually matter to us. The teams rarely have the quality and composure to properly punish us.

On occassion it does happen, which accounted for our home form at the tail end of last year. When we step up a level it gets punished.

There's not actually an issue here, unless Ronny is still naive enough next year to play against European opposition the same way as we do domestic.

 

I think you're misunderstanding me. I agree that we can be cut open and are susceptible to being cut open, but that poster said we ARE being regularly cut open by mediocre SPFL sides and we really haven't lately IMO.

And I agree there isn't an issue, plus we haven't seen Sviatchenko yet and how he handles himself. I think there's plenty of reason to be optimistic.

 

I agree. I don't think Deila will play as openly as last year. I also think we will have better quality at our disposal to be equipped to cope more efficiently.

 

I kind of agree but we had these issues last year with Van Dijk and Denayer, I'll be amazed if Sviatchenko is as good as them.

It's down to Ronny. He's brought everything to the table in an attacking sense in Europe, in being brave on the ball. It's if he can match up defensively.

 

It is true our/Ronny's system does leave us very exposed, even against poor teams domestically.

The players need to learn to defend in numbers as well as attack. It brings us back to the point, one of those bank of two DMs needs to be a player who is capable of anticipating counter attacks and thinking about defence first..

We don't have a player like that in our squad. These players are hard to come by and as long as we continue to play 4-2-3-1 without one we will be exposed against good counter attacking sides.

Ronny arrogantly perceived us to be so much better than Malmo and Molde, he has to have learned, although we have an arguably more talented squad we are very exposed to well organised counter attacking teams.

Ronny has utilised Brown to protect the defence v Ajax and Fener and I'd be looking for him to prepare us the same way for the CL qualifying round.

Part of the problem is that Ronny's approach seems to be from an underdog perspective which seems to suit him more, as the formations and performances showed v Ajax and Fener.. When he perceives us to be favourites his caution seems to get thrown out the window. Maybe this stems from managing underdogs in Norway.

He needs to have learned when to go for it and when to sit, retain possession and then attack.

He might actually be in his element against better CL sides..

One thing is for sure is we shouldn't embark on any European campaign without adding a naturally gifted DM and we should be pulling out all the stops to get him in during this transfer window.

 

That's a good post mate, agree with the majority of it.