The Ronny Deila Thread

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And no. I'm not looking up all the others.

 

Yeah, it was their first ever European final.

On another note, can you definitively show me that Dnipro are doing absolutely everything they can to get the best quality possible within their budget?

My knowledge of Ukranian football is sketchy at best, so if you can provide me with their financial breakdowns for the past few seasons, including outgoings and incomings, and show me who've they've signed, what kind of contracts they're on and suchlike that would be great.

 

That is net worth, without accounting third party income. That is inaccurate.

 

Actually it states 2015 income received from Dnirpo, indeed without third party income which would make it even more.

 

If you go on transfermarkt (which information is backed by footballing agencies) it has their full ins and out. I think they smashed their record signing fee which paid off for them commiting to ambition. That includes the contracts as well

 

That's fine, but how do you know that those ins & outs make up for the entirety of their possible budget?

Do you have somewhere I can see verified financials for the club over the past two or three years?

 

We also chose to sell Matthews and we also chose not to sign a center half in January. We could have ensured that a familiar back 4 played throughout these ties but decisions made at policy level meant we played this tie in transition. Lessons should have been learned the Karagandy season but weren't. So far I can see us going into the summer ties in transition again with a question mark over our midfield 5 but I think we will be better organised come the summer which is progress I suppose. My main gripe and frustration with the club is that decisions that we take make it harder for us to reach the CL.

EDIT VVD was here for qualifiers. Which is exactly what we should be doing. Nobody is sold no matter what until our fate is decided.

 

I understand your frustrations as obviously we'd all want to see Celtic in the CL but as you say yourself, I think we'll be well prepared this time. Can't see any of the back four leaving. Even if 2-3 midfielders leave we have a whole bunch who have all played together and Griff is going nowhere. I am, and I honestly think every Celtic fan should be, excited and postive for our next euro campaign!

 

The thing I don't really get about you OG, is that 99% of what you post suggests that the main issue at our club lies with how the board are running the on-field side of the business.

Yet, you go from posting a lot of stuff that most fans would agree with regarding the budget, our transfer policy and so on to breaking into pretty disturbing rants against a manager who's basically doing what he can with what he has.

Surely you agree that the manager was brought in mainly due to the fact that he wouldn't cost as much as his predecessor? You surely agree that Deila, whilst certainly a promising young coach who was doing some pretty impressive things in Norway, probably got this job a good few years too early?

And yet you actually use such strong terms as "hate" when you talk about him, which I find disturbing to be honest.

I don't even "hate" the likes of Walter Smith, Ally McCoist, Terry Butcher or that wee * who washes the jersey's for the Huns!

Yet you seem comfortable enough declaring that you actually hate Ronny Deila, who isn't only the manager of your football club, but who is also a pretty inoffensive and likeable guy as well?

I find that very disturbing.

 

I calculated it. Hes not even near 40k a week.

Contract 2013-15; 6,394,555.00 USD = 4,413,532.13 GBP / by 3 annual years = 1,471,177.33 GDP annually/season = £30,649.52 per week (excluding 20% tax) - net income per week (including 20% tax) = £24,519 (- £6,129.60)

£25k mate. Hes literally on the same wage as Scott Brown.

 

I have no problem with people taking your point of view. My thoughts is that this view is more in hope rather than expectation. Molde of Norway have shown how easy it is for an inferior street smart team to topple us. I still see the same defensive dangers this style of possession football with a high defensive line brings. I dont think Boyata and Siminovic is suited to this style at all either so the new boy may turn out to be the key to our qualification. I am very cautious and look at worst case scenarios first as should Deila too but it is a gamble. If we get kind draws and steam roll over teams, Deila will get a some vindication for qualifying, I think the risk is too great though and we would greatly improve our chances with a more pragmatic manager like David Moyes, which would pay for itself with qualification.

 

Cop yourself on I dont actually hate Deila, passion makes me lose the run of myself at times, I actually think he's a really likable guy. This is business though not personal.

My main gripe with our club go's beyond our dugout as i'm sure most people have sussed. This does not mean that the managerial team wont receive my wrath for football related failures.

I think Deila is in there to play ball and too weak to do what is best for the club. Sometimes this means butting heads with the suits. I get the impression he feels lucky to be even in our dugout so less likely to rock the boat. I also think we have big problems in regards to his tactical ability which is not what we need as a club.

 

20% tax and there's more that get paid that. What are you even trying to prove? If you seriously think they earn less there, fine, I couldn't care less. If they're doing so great and Celtic so wrong go ahead and support them.

 

Their turnovers?

 

Molde showed us right enough but they showed Ajax and Fener too who knows how far they'll come. Moyes failed at virtually every club he went rather have Ronny.

 

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'Go ahead and support them' after being proved wrong about your claims this winger is on 40k a week.

Sums up our support to be honest, some can't admit our resources aren't being distributed correctly. Or even put into the direction where it benefits the Football department.

 

He was done a solid job at both Everton and Preston North End for a good decade before he got the Utd job. I actually think he done ok there.Dont know anything about his time in Spain.

Do I think he would be a solid option for us? 1,000,000% yes.

 

So some seem to think we should pay net wages and pay the tax due on the players behalf
Very good how did that work out for the last club who done that :smiley-laughing002:

 

Also if there is debate on whether we could afford to pay a winger 40k per week. The answer is yes by the way. Yes we could. In fact we could afford to pay a winger over 70k per week for 4 years with a low estimate of 15m for CL qualification. This is assuming we dont qualify again for the length of his contract and he is available on a bosman. A single qualification could fund such a deal if we chose to invest the money this way.

 

His arrogance and simple minded approach could also easily get him the sack. Especially if he fails to get us hto the champions league for the 3rd year on the trot.