The Ronny Deila Thread

Nah, he said after Dundee he was trying to rest players but wholesale changes like that are unnecessary and we've not seen a return of it. I don't blame Deila for not qualifying by the way, it looks like I do but I said when Lenny left we wouldn't qualify, it's just the way it seems to be first season of a new manager going into Europe.

 

Failure should never be tolerated from any manager.

You know what i really hope we win it this year so that our supporters can * up about it. Of course i want to win a treble every year but we need to get this out of our system.

Main targets for me are
1. to romp the league
2. qualify for CL groups

Secondary targets
1. european football after xmas
2. win domestic cups with a lot of development players

 

We should always be striving for the very best, you have some off games sometimes and that's fine. Morton last year was one of them for me, the ball just wouldn't * go in, the Aberdeen game was down to Lenny and Lenny alone, he hadn't learned from his mistakes that one.

With the Huns dead I think the target is at least a double and Champions League group stages. That's the standard for me, if we get just the league and Champions League I'm happy though.

Champions League is a * lifeline for us, we need it.

 

Losing in the CL in his debut season is a lot more forgivable than the constant mediocrity in the cups we had under Lennon yes.

We took a hit on the CL this year but were still in Europe after Christmas. We've just won a trophy that Lennon never won and there's actually realistic hope of a treble. I'll take a treble season with Europa after Christmas in a first season at the expense of the CL yeah because it means in the long term we're moving forward, something I think we stoppes doing under Lennon.

 

I agree as i have said league and CL groups should be the minimum. We should be making a plan to win the Europa within 5 years. We will do nothing like it. As for the domestic cups I want to win them every year but if we slip up it is no harm done.

Also we play a lot of games in a season so i would think about playing a good load of youths in these cup games from next season on. It is a great way to see what they are made of. Real competitive cup football would be great for them and give our seniors a rest

 

Sad how Lenny felt he had to leave because he was watching everything he built being sold out from under him year on year. To lose Hooper, Wanyama and Wilson in the summer is equivalent to Ronny losing Denayer, Bitton and Johansen. No manager in the world can cope with losses like that without a transition period. You only have to look at Klopp and Rodgers for examples of top managers that struggled.

 

There is no such thing.

 

You are right but in the grand scale of things it is a lot more forgiveable than losing to Legia or Maribour or Braga or Utreact

 

Agree, but to suggest a cup game is meaningless is wrong in my opinion. All cup games matter.

 

Insert pic of Sevco winning the Ramsden Cup.

 

Also Lennon won 50% of the Scottish Cups he entered (not counting TM season), hardly mediocre or worse as others have described it.

Stop using falsehoods to justify the fact that you were bored domestically because the lack of a certain team. It is ok to admit you miss these fixtures if you want. Our best player did yesterday, nobody will think any less of you.

 

Overall yes, we couldn't do that many years and still carry on like we are but it is worth it as a one off for a treble season when the manager in question is still in his first season.

He would be the third manager in our history, thats how rare it is.

Obviously next year Ronny will need to qualify for the CL no excuses but I hope he can also keep his cup form ip aswell as it is refreshing to see

 

Good man

 

Aye, I'm that bored, I still go to games week in week out, did so all through Lennon's time in charge as well, and continue to renew my season ticket each year. I'm that bored of not playing them, that I wanted anyone but them in the League Cup semi, as you will see if you can be bothered to read back the thread. I'm that bored, I'm desperate for them not to come up.

You just carry on calling for managers to be sacked after only a few months into their time in charge. Now that is a hun mentality.

 

Aye, out of all the folk you could accurately aim that accusation at Murphy's about the furthest from that you can get

 

I would genuinely be happy to never play them again mate. The game against the tribute act was just like any other game to me. The build up, the game itself, and the aftermath didn't feel any different compared to games against Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock etc. The most I've wanted to hammer a team this season, and enjoyed beating the most was Aberdeen, the game not so long ago. Loved that.

 

That was not directed to anyone in particular fella i can assure you. Lennon won 2 out of 4 scottish cups which is very good and 1/4 cups he entered. Granted he should have done better in the league cup but sure no harm done. I will be delighted if Ronny wins an average of a domestic cup every 2 seasons and gets us into the CL every season.

As for the whole Lennon cup debate it is an issue started by the media and some of our supportes have jumped on board. If old co was about this would not be an issue. WGS only won the Scottish cup once and the league cup twice so similar records and this wasnt an issue

 

So who were you talking to when you said "Stop using falsehoods to justify the fact that you were bored domestically because the lack of a certain team. It is ok to admit you miss these fixtures if you want. Our best player did yesterday, nobody will think any less of you."

I would say that was definitely aimed at me given how this debate has went, and the fact I had previously spoken about being glad Deila has freshened things up as I felt it had become a bit stale under Lennon.

 

I dont know you personally so there is no way i could make that accusation directly at you unless you specifically said this was the case. This little transaction is not what made me think this way it is a thought that I have had for a while.

I reckon some people miss the oldco games more than they let on. For the record i dont give a *, Europe is the holy grail for me. Anyway people were bored during Lennons final season. They were bored of romping the SPFL. Thats ok it was not the most exciting season but for me i love romping the league rather than a nail biter. I think the same kind of people are quick to put the boot into Lennon because it justifies the fact that they were fed up or uninspired during his final season. Some of the disrespect Lenny gets on here is shocking in my opinion

 

All top level cup games mean something,but its nice to see you on the Ronny thread belittling his achievements already.