Who Will Be Our Next Manager?

It has become apparant that he under-achieved at Everton. By all accounts he is too intense, doesn't listen to advice, plays boring football and is tactically niave.

He inherited a premier league winning team and couldn't really have done any worse. Everton and Man Utd had more money at their disposal.

He complelety ignored the youths at Everton, from what I hear. He is not a good fit for Celtic. Saying that, i'd prefer him to Coyle

 

Wearin thin man, enough said you are just repeating yourself.

 

What about Remi Garde - former Lyon manager. Has he got a new club?

Or are we just too creative and more optimistic than Peter and co?

 

He didn't turn pl down, he directly was in contact with desmond, who gave him all the time he wanted for an answer, then still rejected us..

Go and get a job with your pals you address as durranty and allistair, now that your not good enough for your catchphrase 'barclays premier league'..

 

Every manager makes * ups to be fair, but that Fellaini transfer must cause him nightmares.

 

Starting to think that Lawwell in unaware of managers outwith Britain.

 

bit of a downer if it is coyle, but you just never know how things are gonny work out and if he's in place this week then i'll be, dunno, pleased, at ease, happy, content? that the manager is in, in plenty time to get the ball rolling

 

Apparent nothing. :smiley-laughing002:

How did he 'under-achieve'? He got two 5th place finished and one 4th place finish. Martinez managed to finish 5th this season. If he can do this again and get a 4th place spot and/or do better then Moyes can be regarded as an under-achiever with Everton.

You have to remember that the Everton squad - bar a few players - were bought/signed by Moyes. Why does get so little credit?

 

My understanding was that Lenny and Park identified targets and Lawwell dealt with signings.

I only heard about Hibs tonight (how did they manage to throw away a two goal lead at home!). If we don't make Europe, it's going to be a very underwhelming season. The second tier quite genuinely looks like being much more exciting, with two of our traditional big guns going toe to toe with Sevco for that title and promotion. The SPFL, in contrast, looks even more boring than usual. The Europa League never excites until after Christmas (in the unlikely event we get that far). Qualifying for the CL group stages could be extremely difficult,depending on the draw; but part of me isn't ssure I want usto qualify. If we sell van Dijk and Forster and don't invest with Coyle at the helm, I could see that being a humiliating experience.

We'll just have to take what comes, it is what it is. We've known worse times in the 90's. Nothing lasts forever: neither the bad times we're heading into, nor the good times we've (mostly) enjoyed for the last 14 years.

 

That dozen't add up either in my book, dozen't hang right.
More likely Peter was desperate to get Coyle 4 years ago, and he isn't going to let Coyle slip through his fingers a second time. Remember Coyle was hot stuff 4 years ago, managerially speaking.

 

Who is that you are talking about - Coyle?

 

Would he not be better in midfield? Set pieces, like.

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The most interesting guy I have heard mentioned on here is Murat Yakin. I like the sound of what he has done at Basel.

Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be a live candidate for the job, he's just someone that has been spoken about on here. He's maybe looking for a job in a bigger league at this stage.

 

Lets forget Man U as that went horribly wrong admittedly. Although it was way to soon in my opinion to sack him. He should of got next season or the very least till January to try get his own players in.

At Everton his league record was superb. Very consistent indeed. Hard team to beat and they didn't alwats play attractive but it wasn't hethe worst we've ever seen. * Lennys team this season was hardly great on the eye.

 

You sort of solidified my point. Martinez broke the points record for Everton, played more attacking, scored more goals etc etc with Moyes signings.

When Moyes came 4th it was when there was less competiton. There was only the big 4 back then. Now there is 6 or 7 big teams.

Therefore Moyes underachieved with those players. He also under-achieved with fergie's squad.

 

Bollocks about moyes, he laid the foundations of a bottom half side into a respected european challenging side consistently for years.
martinez has carried that on and had a good first year..

Moyes would do well here and be a big name, despite a horrific season

 

Brown and Mulgrew central midfield pairing.

 

yes

 

Celtic: Owen Coyle not damaged goods, says Maloney

LIFE under Owen Coyle’s management at Wigan Athletic was brief and unfulfilling for Shaun Maloney.

A hip injury sustained on Scotland duty led to the former Celtic forward undergoing surgery which sidelined him for seven months. By the time he returned to action, Coyle had been sacked after winning just seven of his 23 matches at the club.
It is just one of the reasons Maloney suggests he may not be the best person to ask about Coyle’s suitability for the current managerial vacancy at Celtic.
“It’s hard for me to answer that,” he said. “I remember working with a really good man at Celtic, someone I thought would be a really good manager for the club. That was Tony Mowbray. Obviously, that didn’t work out.When I played for Tony, I liked him as a person and his style of football. So I’m not sure if I could say who would be good for the Celtic job or not.
“It’s a really intense job. It’s a difficult time for Scottish football, with the challenges Celtic have and the necessity of getting to the Champions League. It is still a pretty demanding place to work, even if the challenge in the domestic league is different.
“I wasn’t actually at the club when Owen lost his job at Wigan, because I was in America recovering from the surgery on my hip. I didn’t play that much for him, only about five games before I had to get the injury sorted. He definitely tried to cultivate a really good relationship with the players – that was his biggest idea at Wigan. That’s the way he tries to manage a club. His assistant, Sandy Stewart, did the bulk of the coaching, that’s the way it worked.
“In fairness, it was difficult for him when he came in because we had a very different style of manager (Roberto Martinez) and style of football before him that the club had been used to for four years. We had just been relegated and lost some of our best players – and I think he had to sign a lot as well, so it wasn’t the easiest start he had. It was a tough job for him.”
Coyle remains among the bookies’ favourites for the Celtic job and Maloney does not 
believe his unsuccessful stints at both Wigan and Bolton should be viewed as evidence he has lost the capabilities which made him such a highly-regarded managerial property at St Johnstone and Burnley.
“I wouldn’t describe him as damaged goods,” added Maloney. “I think that is a harsh phrase to use. I couldn’t tell you the ins and outs, but I think he was close to getting the Celtic job when he was at Burnley and that’s probably the reason why he’s mentioned again with the manager changing. A list comes out right away and the odds change every day.
“It’s a difficult one for Owen, with him losing his job at our place and at Bolton before that. 
I can see why there are questions about him for some people. 
But it’s harsh to try and judge someone before they even get the job. That’s just football. 
It’s the same with players. It’s a results business and that’s fine. You know when you go into management that if you win games, you will be fine.
“Owen had a brilliant reputation at Burnley and got the 
Bolton job and he hasn’t done so well at our club. So he is on the other side of things at the 
moment, but that might not last forever. He could get his next job and do very well.”
Maloney returned to action for Wigan in April, playing seven times at the end of a season in which they lost to QPR in the play-off semi-finals and missed out on an immediate return to the top flight of English football. “Uwe Rosler came in to replace Owen and there has been a huge turnaround in our fortunes,” added the 31-year-old. “We weren’t good enough to get past QPR in the play-offs, which was fair, but the change under the new manager has been pretty colossal really.”
Maloney hopes to earn his 32nd Scotland cap in tomorrow night’s challenge match against Nigeria in London and is 
savouring his return to Gordon Strachan’s squad.
“It’s been quite a while, so I’m pretty enthusiastic about being back,” he said. “I’ve not really got too much fatigue going on at the minute, having only just started playing again, so I’m just happy to be here.
“The team have been brilliant recently, unbeaten in the last five games. There has been a pretty big turnaround in terms of results. When I was in the squad last time, you could sense a change in the belief of the players and that has carried on over the season. It’s certainly a tougher team to get into than when I was involved last time. The manager works quite hard on the shape of the team. A lot of the training is about tactical shape. The players who go out there all know their job. We have become a much harder team to beat.
“Every manager wants a certain structure within their team. There isn’t a player in our squad who is so good that he doesn’t need to work or track back within a structure. We don’t have anyone good enough to be a luxury player. Under this 
manager, you wouldn’t get to play for him like that anyway.
“It was obvious from early on under him that you have to work hard and understand your role. We are taught all week 
exactly what he wants from us and then it’s up to us to try and do it to win matches.”