Kris Commons

Not disputing that mate. However, I used Larsson as an example because he was a player who got better with age, not all players do that. Look at Torres for example. It can sometimes depend on how the player looks after his body. Commons best years might well be behind him.

 

I'd say Commons at 30 was better than Commons at 25/26 though, right? And he's never been a player to rely on pace etc.

So why would he be worse? What could 3 weeks in summer do to turn him from a 30 goal midfielder to an also ran?

 

I'm not saying he is finished mate, I'm just pointing out that players all change with age. A change in tactics could mean that he is surplus to requirements. What the manager wants might be something that Commons struggles with. If Deila wants a player like Johansen in the number 10 role, then Commons doesn't fit. If he wants pacy wingers with lots of energy eventually, once he has been allowed money to spend, then Commons doesn't fit.

 

I still find the idea that Commons only fits one role quite bizarre. I'm not entirely sure what it's based on.

 

Johansen and Commons together were great against Kilmarnock, with them switching positions with each other.

 

In the current system, he might not fit any role in Deila's eyes. That is the point I'm making. Look at Mandzukic when Guardiola went to Bayern. He went from being a very important player, to one that wasn't required, and ultimately, he was shipped out.

 

That's all well and good for Bayern but I'd be extremely concerned if Deila doesn't have the ability to fit a midfielder capable of scoring 30 goals into a team that is struggling for goals.

 

Commons was more guilty than anyone at Kilmarnock for not converting chances.

 

Commons over the course of the past 4 years has been more able to hit the back of the net than any other player in the team, should we use that to judge his scoring capabilities or should we use 90 minutes against one team when it was his first start in weeks?

 

Yes, playing in a different set up, with a different role. Like any manager, Deila will have his own ideas, with what type of player he wants for each position. If Commons doesn't fit into the plans, then so be it. As I've said a few times, if we were talking about a Moravcik etc, then I would argue that we should be building a team to suit, because the guy was genuinely class, however, we aren't.

 

And yet he's still 3rd top goalscorer as a bit part player this season. If Deila's plans don't include scoring goals he can ram them. If he is so unwilling that he can't fit goalscorers into the team then I don't really want him here.

Do you actually doubt that Commons would end up on of our top scorers this season if played consistently?

 

I think it's fairly safe to assume Deila would like us to score goals, and I think it will be in his plans. The amount of chances we are creating in games would back that up. The games where we have been ruthless and converted our chances, we have steamrollered teams.

Who knows if he would or not.

So would you rather we punt Deila in order to have Kris Commons playing week in week out, assuming Deila doesn't want him here.

 

And yet we're still being outscored by the likes of Dundee United, have no players in the top 5 goalscorers in Scotland and we're still struggling to actually convert those chances.

I would want him gone if we're still having those problems by the end of the year without him doing anything or actively making them worse (by punting the likes of Commons and refusing to change to 2 up top) these are the kind of decisions a manager lives and dies by.

And you know he would, he always is and actually already is one of our top scorers this season.

 

The ball is in Commons' court. If he's confident enough to be just as effective at 33/34 and really wants to stay in Glasgow he should just sign the 1 or 2 year contract he's been offered. As it seems money isn't the issue.

If he doesn't sign, I won't be blaming the board/management. I can see their point. If he's still got it at 33 he can sign on again. If he's not and we've got to pay him another season or two then the club loses out.

 

Converting chances shouldn't really fall on Deila's head though. If we are creating loads in games, then his tactics are obviously working, if guys like Guidetti, Commons, Scepovic, Johansen etc cannot convert the chances, then for me, you have to look at the players. If we are carving out bags of opportunities in games, then for me, that justifies the manager's tactics from an attacking point of view. Something which we have been doing for the past wee while now. If Commons isn't in Deila's plans, then for me, the best thing to do, would be to get rid of him, because it is just another stick being used to batter him with from both fans and pundits in my opinion. I'm still waiting on some money being invested from our summer sales. He has to be allowed to bring in his own players. Every penny will be reinvested n all that.

 

It can if you have a player capable of scoring 30 on the bench in Commons, a very good goalscorer in Griffiths on the bench or played wide right, another good striker out wide left and relying on somebody who has never scored more than 10 goals in a season as one of your main goal threats.

I still think a good manager uses the squad available to him in the most efficient way possible. I still don't see that happening.

 

* get him signed man

 

Griffiths shouldn't be at Celtic Park as far as I'm concerned. Stokes has linked up very well with Izaguirre playing as a left winger, and has created a lot of goals this season, and Johansen has been our best player since moving into Commons best position. Forrest is the best suited option wide right when he is fit, I know that is rarely right enough. As I've already said, I want Deila to be given money to spend to bring in his own players, ones to play the system he wants to play. If he doesn't get money to do so, then it was a complete and utter waste of time even bringing him here to begin with.

 

That's the reason he was brought here. He'll get * all money. Loan deals is what he'll get