How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?

So far this thread is definitely generating more heat than light. Interesting that emotions run really high in this issue (on both sides of the debate). Is there anything we can all agree on yet? Can we all agree that what Griffiths did was wrong, even if some of you don't think it was racist? Can we all agree that the Irish diaspora made up in part of refugees from the great famine a few decades earlier was a large part of the reason for founding our club (even if many disgree with the "founded by and for refugees" claim) and that therefore Griffiths' choice of song was even worse coming from a Celtic player? Finally, can we all agree (even if we can't agree whether he should be sacked) that a slap on the wrist isn't enough and that he needs to apologise and be given some meaningful task to make right what he did?

 

Will I ever be an expecting an answer to this one?

If you know your history * indeed alright!!:bbpd:

 

nevermind.

 

You heard Griffiths starting a song , or the song , you think that is proof , I hope you are given an opportunity to sit in Judgement against Huns and Huns fans . I think its strange that all we require for guilt is a couple of harmless words . Simple people only need simple proof.

 

i found out what boots it is he wears its hypervenoms

 

Magicballbhoy. I think most sensible posters would know that because of the police investigation, his lawyer would not allow any form of apology. Most people would know that was normal procedure .
When the police finally announce that they have insufficient evidence to bring a charge . Remember what happened to our manager at Tynecastle , with hundreds of witnesses, police cameras and Hearts security persons all protecting N. Lennon, no evidence, No doubt Leigh will be treated similarly .

 

What?

 

OK, so seemingly we can't agree even on those three things.

Can we at least agree to all ignore my post quoted above, please. Pretty please.

 

He's saying your * wee 20 second clip of him apparently singing will never hold up in a court of law. Mark my words here. Upon further thinking about it I have came to the conclusion * all will happen. A small fine at the very most and a wee 10 second apology, probably not sincere but who the * cares. But sacked or banned or charged. No * chance.

Nothing will happen. It's all a load of * blown out of proportion by the media and SFA which was to be expected. But some of our own fans are are worse than anyone else. Need to * grow a pair. It wasn't even a very malicious song, it's not like they were singing 'Skacel go back home you refugee *' In fact, his defence could argue the chant wasn't even racist.

 

"JON DALY YOU * REFUGEE, GO HOMEEEEE"

You'd be raging and you'd know it. You're making an exception for Griffiths because he's playing for us and sure, it was only an Eastern European he was singing about. It is a big deal, it is malicious, it is needless and although you're right that he won't be sacked, he should be:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/oct/26/celtic-sack-racism-neil-lennon

 

Talk about clutching at straws! :smiley-laughing002:

Some of the founding fathers of Celtic were refugees, and some were sons of refugees.

Do you know why such a large Irish community sprung up in Glasgow?

 

Sorry btw if that McCullouch pic makes anybody feel sick.

 

So much to do so little time. I'm marking your words is it * all,,,,,,,,,or a fine?????


Can't be both ,,,or can it??????????

 

Wasn't it a combination of the weather, fried pizza and jobs in the growing IT sector in Glasgow at that time?

 

i once had a fried pizza once and it looked like my grandfathers feet

 

"JON DALY YOU * REFUGEE, GO HOMEEEEE" That's just a little bit different than ''JON DALY, REFUGEE, JON DALY REFUGEE'' is it not?

And no i wouldn't be offended. Most of the Irish that did come over to Scotland were classed as immigrants. Only the Irish that came over during the potato famine were classed as refugees. More to the point the vast majority went to the USA and not the UK.

So Jon Daly quite clearly wasn't a refugee, he obviously wasn't even alive during the potato famine! So, no i wouldn't give two * and I am sure he wouldn't either. Just like I couldn't care less about the famine song.

 

Then * most of the world are refugees! If we are going to get into the whole sons of sons of sons *.

 

Wheras Rudi Skacel is definitely a refugee?

 

You contradicted yourself again.

If the ''*'' video can't prove anything, then why would he be punished with and apology and fine? and as nevnor pointed out, you said nothing will happen... then go on to say he may be fined.

I'm not arguing with you about it anymore. Only you and a couple of other people share your odd view on it, it's not even worth talking about. It's not up for discussion, it's so easy for you to sit there and say it isn't a big deal because it wasn't aimed at you, it didn't offend you and you are just trying to defend a Celtic player because you feel it is your duty.

Done.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there is insufficient evidence for the police to take action, due to a number of reasons. Most notably the burden of proof required being extremely high, and the fact that the police would have to investigate every person in the video singing the song, and probably think it would be too consuming.

That said, any Celtic supporter with a brain who has watched the video will know what went on, and why it is completely unacceptable.