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How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Dáibhí, Apr 6, 2014.

Discuss How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths? in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Soul Rebel

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    Why are people so keen to refer to it as refugees now but didn't before?
     
  2. Random Review

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    Very smart man. I'm not into rap music but his lyrics blew me away. As my sister once had to patiently explain to me after I had shown my ignorance: it's not true that most rap is about glorifying violence and degrading women; it's just that that kind of rap is badly overrepresented on the mainstream media for obvious reasons.
     
  3. Soul Rebel

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    I'll let Griffiths handle the singing :50:
     
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    Look, let's be blunt about this. You know why millions had to leave Ireland in the 19th Century. You know the connection between this Irish diaspora and the formation of Celtic. You yourself recognise the validity of describing us as formed by refugees for refugees earlier in the thread. You know fine well why this aspect of our history is suddenly relevant this week.

    Why are you arguing?
     
  5. Jinky.

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    Because our forefathers came here as '* refugees'.

    Our club was formed by '* refugees' to feed starving * refugees'.

    * refugees build our stadium with their bare hands.

    Now we have a Celtic player chanting about a '* refugee'. Telling people on twitter to go back to their own country. Its not on really, is it?
     
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    The more I think about the less true the statement even becomes. A club formed by refugees, for refugees. It's just not true is it. The figure head of the formation wasn't even a refugee. The club was formed to help the poor, some of which were refugees, some of which were immigrants and some of which were Scottish. It's just a stupid saying and one that has only been created as a reaction to the Griffiths situation. To say we were formed by refugees, for refugees sounds like we discriminated against everybody that wasn't a refugee when in actual fact the aid went far beyond immigrants, refugees and even just Irish and Catholics. So yeah, silly saying.
     
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    Dunno why he's arguing but im not wasting any more time explaining it.

    Immortal Technique is a good * btw. :50:

    A few good videos of him talking on youtube, he's an intelligent guy.
     
  8. Jinky.

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    Revising history now.

    :56:

    Ill leave you to it.
     
  9. Soul Rebel

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    How is that a revision? Were the only people that were allowed to aid from soup kitchens etc. refugees? Or were they set up to aid everybody that needed it?
     
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    This is nitpicking of the highest order. I'm quite impressed by your skill level. It's not a stupid saying created as a reaction to the Griffiths situation; it's a saying created to highlight an aspect of our history that has suddenly of greatly heightened relevance due to the Griffiths situation.
     
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    :97:

    One of the main reasons we were founded was because soup kitchens in Glasgow were refusing to feed the Irish refugees unless they changed their religion and renounced their Catholic faith.

    Brother Walfrid set up Celtic football club to feed the Irish Catholic refugees that were refused aid from Soup kitchens in Glasgow.

    We were formed to feed specifically the starving refugees that were refused food from the Glasgow soup kitchens unless they renounced their Catholic religion.

    :87:
     
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  12. Soul Rebel

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    To be fair, you were leaving this thread about two pages ago.
     
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    If a mate of yours said he worked to earn money and you knew that he also quite enjoyed his job, would you spend the next two hours arguing with him that he therefore didn't work just to earn money or would you recognise the essential validity of his statement?
     
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    Just correcting your inaccurate view of our history.
     
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    I think you could have thought of a better analogy to be honest.
    It wasn't inaccurate.
     
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    Sick and tired of hearing about the Daily Record to be honest. They have printed plenty of garbage in the past about us, we all know that, but anyone can see that Griffiths was singing the song. It's getting embarrassing seeing people trying to blame the Daily Record actually.

    Lennon already made a statement about this kind of behaviour, and that should mean that Griffiths was sacked, or will be sacked. I'm almost certain that isn't going to happen, so any statement the club make about this incident now, it's going to mean nothing in my opinion.
     
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    Have spent time thinking about this and its obvious leigh has certain other issues in his life, so perhaps my answer may seem extreme, but give it some thought and I feel it may make sense The question was - "How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?" -

    My answer is castration may be worth a shout. :97:
     
  19. Glasgow_Bhoy88

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    Celtic was formed to feed and alleviate the poverty suffered by those living in the east end parishes. It was formed to help the poor and hungry regardless of who they were.

    Someone had said we were founded by a refugee, we weren't and they have the same ignorance that Griffiths has shown.
     
  20. Roskopicachu

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    I'm more worried about the guy's ego and growly attitude more than anything.

    Lots of people have opinions on refugees and it's largely hyped up in the media. The simple truth is, if you live in a western society like ours, you've got no idea really what it's like to be a refugee.

    I just think it's a song to insult and wind up a player who's scored goals and inflamed the Hibs support.

    You get into this and that about how the club was formed and trying to kick racism out of football. So it looks bad. But you have to wonder why one person gets singled out by the police and 100 fans, or 2,000 fans who sing the same thing don't.

    So their is maybe a bit of a witch hunt, that Griffiths brings on himself through a general lack of intelligence.

    A lot was made about his celebration cupping his ear, but nobody mentions Samaras' celebration which was similar. Nobody says anything about Samaras, everyone is on Griffiths' back, demanding he gets kicked out the club.

    I think an SFA disciplinary hearing is taking it all too far. What exactly are they gonna do ban him for a game and fine him a paltry sum. Then what? Doesn't change a * thing and neither does kicking him out the club. It won't stop daft people singing daft songs in pubs and football stadiums.