How Do You Think The Club Should Deal With Leigh Griffiths?

Once we start passing off things like this as banter its a slippery slope, xenophobic attitudes like Griffiths has become the norm. Its not acceptable anywhere let alone a club that was created by immigrants and set up to feed the poor refugees. It needs to be challenged.

 

If he was singing "Brother Walfrid was a refugee" the overriding tone on here would be much more one sided.

 

However the person who took the video and more than likely joined in with the chant has sold a video to a dirty rag I'm kind of glad he did due to the fact there is proof he did it. The rumour was out as soon as the first video came out but I just brushed it off and made it bullshit! but in another way I think who on earth would take a video and sell it to a paper for a * bit of cash and be a sell out to a player hey where all loving in the pub

 

Its not really a slippery slope, people have evolved from keeping slaves because they were from other countries and seen as lesser people to just calling them names or from Hitler trying to wipe out types of people to people jjust making salutes and getting tattoos. It's the opposite of a slippery slope x a million.

 

I get what you mean I don't agree with any name calling to offend somebody but racism is racism no such thing as casual racism or not real racism

 

What? You can't be serious mate, disabled people are without doubt the most subjugated group of people on Earth! Whether it be folk calling them names, folk physically abusing them, or just the general pain of having to navigate in a world not made for them, I think disabled people definitely have life the hardest.

But in strictly legal terms it is much worse to call someone a "*" or a "* *" than it is to say "haha, you're in a wheelchair you *" - is that right though?

You're right, and that's part of the double standards i'm on about. All or nothing, it shouldn't be for the law or lawmakers to decide which offensive things are worse than others.

 

Do you think these things don't happen anymore?

People are still sold into slavery, still treated like dirt, still made to feel like second class citizens. All because of their skin colour or where they come from.

It's not went away mate, these attitudes still exist and turning a blind eye to "just words" is helping to promote racism.

Nip it in the bud, it's the only way regarding this problem.

 

Apart from anything else, someone ought to inform Leigh that, as well as the club who employ him, his own boyhood heroes were also founded by refugees.

 

It's not just offensive though, I don't know how many times I can say that.

It's racism pure and simple and that was covered under existing legislation that most people agreed with and rightly so, why would anyone have a problem with racism being illegal?

 

Absolutely right.

I find it amazing that a supporter of a club like Celtic, bearing in the club's history, could pass this off as 'banter' and expect no more than a slap on the wrists as a 'punishment'. The scumbag should never have played for Celtic, and if this incident turns out to be true he definitely should never play for the club again.

 

I do think Griffiths is a racist, or has racist views, whatever the difference is as that's now twice he's made a racist or race-related comment - and I don't believe there's smoke without fire.

However I was responding to your comment about legless people not receiving abuse or being victimized - black people were 2nd class citizens in the past but at least now legally are equal. Disabled people for all intents and purposes are still 2nd class though as society isn't catered to them and they are "others".

Anyway, enough of the sociological talk, Griffiths is a * but if he bangs in the goals I honestly don't care.

 

I know what you mean but those people should be dealt with for their own actions, cause people in Mexico or wherever are keeping people as slaves doesn't make someone in Sweden terrible for calling someone a racist name because other people are treating them badly too.

To me it just makes people saying the stuff sound dumb, ignorant or that and some stuff you wouldnt get involved in, everyone has their own standards of how bad they want to look infront of others for some they only go as far as slagging looks or some more extreme things like face melted, eye missing, legs missing. For others they go the whole way of nation of birth, skin colour but id label it all under the one group of just offending people.

 

I'm all for free speech mate but there has to be a cut off point.

Words might not always hurt but they start to sow seeds in young minds and help to facilitate more serious issues of racism through conditioning.

 

They are obviously just daft 12 year old students, lefties and dangerous commies.

Not to be taken seriously.

 

I dont think they will though, racism and all that kind of stuff is improving as time goes on. Comments and songs are stuff you shouldnt be worrying about.

One incident I always mind is a few years ago there was a guy sitting like 2 seats from me against the Huns, one of those loud guys always shouting and singing and generally raging and hating huns and shouting allsorts, he called all the hun players "monkey *" Davis, Lafferty but at one point he called Edu it like "* off Edu ya * monkey *" there was probably some people near me who heard it and were shocked thinking he was making a racist comment but I mind him shouting the same stuff at half their team of whatever race he was just calling them all monkeys. It was daft of the guy, if someone caught that on camera and put it on youtube and he was found out he would probably have got a lifetime ban yet I would know he wasnt calling him that cause of skin colour or anything like that.

That guy was just stupid for me, he should know people could take the saying of stuff like that the wrong way and thought before saying it. Same as anyone could hit out with anything at any time.

The likes of Griffiths is obviously even dafter than this guy he's a player of another team in a pub. But Griffiths means nothing racist by the singing of it, just cause others think it is shouldnt mean anything to him. He should just be labelled stupid and thats that but people already knew he was when he signed.

 

It's obvious the guy isn't the sharpest , and what he done was daft to say the least. Fair enough he has played well, and that is probably why a lot aren't slating him for this. Fine him , put him on the bench and give him another chance.

 

Context is everything in that instance.

If anyone can show me Griffiths being taken out of context I'll gladly take everything back.

 

The context of Griffiths is him singing a Hibs song getting it up Skacel who they all hate. But to others it's a song mocking refugees. Griffiths isnt singing it to mock refugees, probably no Hibs fans are or ever have.

Same as all football songs mocking race, disability, size, shape or any manner of things. Arsenal songs about Ashley Cole being gay arent because he is or to mock gay people they are just sung cause they dont like him.

Songs in football about players are about the players. They are not about them dying, being gay, black, refugees, disabled, fat, with bent eyes or any of that.