The unwinnable war on drugs.

The war is over.....drugs won.

Weed should be legal simple as that and there wouldn't be so many dodgy pills kicking about if MDMA was more available.

 

Another gripe I have is the policing of drugs on the streets. I was pretty amazed at how quickly 2 houses were raided after the unfortunate death of the young girl in the Arches, both having the types of pills she took. I dunno, maybe her pals told the cops where she may have for them, and quite rightly so, but it got me thinking that the polis probably have all sorts of evidence and intelligence on who the main dealers are in areas all over the place, whether they're big time or small time dealers which isn't the point. But the fact it takes the death of a 17 year old girl before these guys selling dodgy * are held accountable for what they're doing and selling is shameful.

 

I think the charts more to do with deaths etc obviously alcohol and tobacco are up there because 1 in how many people take them ecstasy is never going to be up there with drink because the numbers are totally different

 

The police almost certainly know the whereabouts of the main dealers...but they also know that for everyone arrested another 2 will pop up in their place..
If The demand is there (and it is) then supply will follow.
It's just more paperwork for the police and more workload on the justice system...which ultimately has no impact.

Edit..as a side note..i wouldnt be surprised if it turns out the unfortunate lassie involved had taken a cocktail of stuff...and a strong/genuine eccy was enough to tip her over the edge.
Frequently turns out that way.

 

So guya that like to pop a pill at the odd party ( myself not included ) should be looked upon as having a medical problem?

drugs are drugs, they are what they are....if people want to take them then who can stop them? If they decide to stop then treatment should be there to help them.

Its like trying to moniter every web page on the internet, we'll never win the 'war' on drugs.

 

Seriously? Lets just give heroin junkies somewhere nice and safe that they can go to and inject their drug? They can sit in their custom-made drug centres getting high whilst the rest of the population go out to work to pay for them to have medical professionals on standby in case they overdose?

Here's a question. What do these heroin addicts contribute to society?

 

Cannabis, LSD, Ecstasy and Mushrooms should be legalised and sold like drink and tobacco. They are basically totally safe in the right doses, so if they only sold 3 eccies at a time - if they took the 3 then theyd still be fine but then anyone who took 10 or that was obviously causing their own problems by taking more than they should just like somecunt can buy 3 bottles of vodka and drink it all.

 

What does anybody contribute to society? people that own mobile phone companies or anything contribute nothing either apart from jobs but people are forced into jobs to do stuff, nobody if given the choice would work for fun if they didnt need to, so jobs themselves create problems for society.

Heroin users have contributed greatly to music and art.

 

Here's what I would do. I would, rather than throw drug users in prison, and rather than spend money on injection centres, plow the money into high level rehab centres. Completely high spec with all the latest medical advances, and highly qualified medical assistance on hand 24 hours per day.

The catch though, is you get to use these things only three times in your life. After that, you're done. No help, nothing.

The truth is, people need to want to get better. If they don't, then I don't see why we as a society should facilitate them.

 

The fact that they'll be getting treated properly would greatly cut down on the damage that they do to society.

 

The point of these clinics is to try and wean people off the drugs, so they then can eventually contribute to society.

It currently costs around £45k per year to keep someone in jail, the cost per patient at one of these clinics is est £15k. So it would be a lot cheaper for the tax payer in the long run, not to mention crime reduction.


It will almost certainly save a few lives as well....

 

They obviously have some sort of problems though if they just want to inject heroin and get out their * every day though.

What are the prospects of ex junkies too? they arent going to get very good jobs id imagine most are ugly * who you can spot a mile away that they were junkies, usually have few to no teeth, scars or just that look about them due to how skinny they are or whatever. Best they could hope for would be a * job and living at the bottom of society struggling through life probably on some sort of medication, they'd be better off dead or still on heroin and whatever affects that has on them getting more enjoyment out life.

 

Not according to the article that you posted;

 

I posted another article .....post 20 on this thread...

 

There's your answer right there.

 

probably find it's cheaper to issue heroin than food and shelter. Ugly truth

 

"Contribute to society" is one of the worst terms there is, barely any people contribute to society, for me the only people that do are entertainers/sports people and people who help others just out of kindness like go abroad to Zimbabwe an help teach people how to get food and water and treat or prevent illness and diseases. Thats contributing to society bringing happiness etc to people

Getting involved in the big game of work and money id say takes away from society, how many people are having to be medicated because they are just like zombies unhappy with their lives? for all we know heroin users could be injecting themselves then living in dreamland laughing at people getting up at 7am to go and do stuff they dont want to do because they get the reward of money for it. Just as people working 40 hours a week are laughing at them making no progress to join the life of work and money.

 

I know, but I'm not looking at the problem from the viewpoint of how cheap it would be, or how it'll affect me if they aren't committing crimes and so on.

We either assist people to get back into society, or we don't. Facilitating them killing themselves as long as they are out of the way and aren't stealing our televisions isn't the answer.

Without those who contribute to society there'd be no money to pay for all of these legal high centres, would there?

 

I'm not sure where I stand on legalisation - weed aside. Ludicrous that people are criminalised for using it.

 

Weed shouldn't even be illegal to be honest.