Sold short again

In:

Griffith
Fridjonsson
Johansen

Out:

Ledley
Bangura


Decent business.

When newco are back that's when we'll need to spend.

 

A big name players striker wouldn't want to play in this league atm. The summer that's newco comeback and if we qualify for the groups that's when we will spend £6m on a striker imo.

 

I agree, spending money doesn't equate to ruining the club, but some people would have us spunking millions away just for the sake of it, which is very short sighted. We obviously need to spend money to improve and replace players who have left...which we have done. We're operating within our financial level with good success and the signings we're making will keep us qualifying for the Champions League (in my opinion). The type of players to take us to the next level (consistently qualifying for the last 16) won't cost just a few million more, we're talking 10 million plus.

 

I reckon Lawwell will be happy for more 6-1 thrashings just as long as we are in the CL group stages,

 

When Barcelona are in the mood they'll pump much better teams than us, teams who have spent much more than us.

Tell me, who should Lawell have signed to have avoided that result?

 

You think its about 1 result, a rotten milan team pumped us as well.

If its Lawwells desision to keep downsizing then his wages should be part of it, as someone else said on here a Lada doesnt need a Ferrari mechanic to keep it ticking over

 

Do any of you think Celtic would ever push the boat out for a player, wage wise?

I mean, say the stars aligned and a truly good player was settled here and wanted to stay, like Larsson - would we pay the price? We paid Larsson £45k a week because we knew how good he was (aye, I know the league was much better back then but just go along with this).

This isn't being pessimistic btw, genuine question and It would be interesting to see what Lawwell would do.

 

Im sure Henriks final contract was signed before Lawwell actually came to the club, had he been here Henke would have been offski i reckon

 

It was. He came in about 2003, Henrik had already signed some sort of extension to his contract already, which bumped his pay up again.

Wonder what Pedro what have done?

 

I don't know what people wanted.

Ok we all wanted a top striker but FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME no-one good is going to come to Scotland in January without the Champions League.

Lennon knows this but he also knows the deluded fans won't accept it, so he throws you all a bone about us buying 6 million pound players - which we can do - but it can't happen because we're have literally 10% of the money of any English club.

 

No. Maybe in television rights, but not overall. Overall we have roughly just under the top 5/6's money.
Testament to Celtic and Lawwell that we can achieve those level of finances.

 

If Lennon made the '6 million striker claim' as some soundbite to bring people back without any real intention of doing so, hes ever bit as bad a lawwell

moneyunderfalsepretences CSC

 

Totally agree. Some people aren't living in the real world.

 

We have less income but more expenditure than the vast majority of the premiership. The TV money is the main thing. We outsell 99.9% of all sports teams on planet earth in terms of merchandise and tickets but when Stoke and Swansea can make literally 10 times our tv money then it becomes pointless.

Our highest wage is 30k. That is BELOW average wage in the English premiership. Reality bites and people need to get used to it.

We are going in the right direction, despite all the hysteria, but it will take 5 solid successive years of CL participation for us to get "back" to where we were - although even under MON we were poorer than most English clubs.

 

Aye, I was just making a point overall. Teams like Norwich and Stokes get most of their money from Sky. However they all have more expendable income and the ability to have larger debts than we do. Therefore they can spend larger sums and pay higher wages.

Under MON we were actually only poorer than the teams you would expect. The Man Uniteds, Liverpools, Arsenal and I think that was it - until about 2004 and then Chelsea and Tottenham's finances rocketed. Thereafter, so did everyone elses.

 

Griffiths is a great signing and he will score lots of goals at a domestic level. This is all we can expect in the January window. As someone said earlier, this is all we are going to attract with no champions league football until next season.
As for the other January window signings...all work in progress, lets give them some time before any judgements are made on them.

 

The simple fact is yes we as a team are worse than we were from 2001-2005 but this is because the rest of Europe has in most part gone forward and the funding in the splfplf has stood still.
It has also taken us 10 years to shed the debt we had trying to sign epl stars.

 

True, but we are a worse team than we were last season. That is the issue for me, not the fact that we cannot compete with Chelsea and Man Utd. We are a team in decline because we sold our best players for lots of money and we replace them as cheaply as possible. We do this because there is zero competition in our domestic game and because we figured we could scrape into the champions league this year. And we did, via a last minute goal against a Kazak team. But make no mistake - at a time when we making millions punting our top talent we are getting worse and all it takes is a tough tie in the qualifiers next year and we will be out before we start. And next season when we inevitably offload Forster and Van Dijk for £15-20m and try to replace them with a couple of guys for a couple of million, we will be worse again.

 

Agree with you and the sad thing for me is too many don't get it. If we win the League & Cup then happiness reigns. As much as I don't want it to happen, I have come to the conclusion that the only way for folks to appreciate where we are and for The Management to change their attitude, and I include Lenny in this with his boring tactics in a League that we walk - move to 2 up front - is for us to get no further than our 1st CL qualifier, which will mean we are out of Europe.The net effect of that will be our better players will be sold to make ends meet. As a supporter for over 50 years, it still hurts when we get beat and I really want us to get to the Groups but there needs to be a wake up call from The Management.

The Management have to decide if we are building a side to win the SPFL or a side that will win the League and compete in the CL.