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Would Scott Brown playing have made a difference....

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Boss, Nov 7, 2013.

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  1. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    The fact that he is next in line? Followed by Mulgrew?
     
  2. murphy88

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    I know what you are saying mate, but I don't think the lack of leadership was a problem, it was just a lack of quality in my opinion. And the qualities we lacked, sadly, Brown lacks also.
     
  3. Murph-E

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    No. Our fans focus far too much on 'grit, tackling, determination', that's not what we need. We need some * flair in the team, a player capable of doing something with the ball. We have enough organisers and tacklers.
     
  4. Boss

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    Absolutely.

    I just feel as if there was no leadership last night on the field which the likes of Paul Lambert was good at by being instructed from the bench and as captain made sure those instructions were implemented on the field, and adhered to, and took responsibility for them.

    I remember as an example, Lambert giving Stan Varga grief for a poor defensive header.

    Has that style of on field leadership gone?
     
  5. Pádraig Pearse

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    Bit of an inane post that and I don't really understand what your point is.

    He is next in line because Lennon says so. You haven't really addressed my post at all.
     
  6. TheHolyGoalie

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    Samaras was made captain because he's our most experienced player. He was captain against Barcelona a year ago today. We didn't lose the game and play * because he wore an armband.
     
  7. Pádraig Pearse

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    A good captain who is vocal and motivates the rest of the team certainly makes a difference. Otherwise, what is the point of even having one?
     
  8. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    What is so difficult to understand? There is a distinct order in which the Captaincy is given out.

    Are you suggesting he put Samaras down the pecking order despite being with the club for several years, being one of the most experienced players and being our talisman in Europe time and time again?

    We weren't beat 1 nil because Samaras had the armband or Brown was in the stand. We were beat 1 nil because every not one single attacker showed up on the night.
     
  9. TheHolyGoalie

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    So if Brown played and started to shout and motivate the team we would magically learn to pass the ball? would our players be instilled with more technical skill? would we have a striker that stays in the box? would we be more clinical? would our crosses hit their target?

    No.
     
  10. Pádraig Pearse

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    I'm suggesting Samaras shouldn't have been anywhere near the pecking order in the first place. I'm scundered that the Celtic captain in a match that size was lapping out of tackles.

    I don't care how experienced he is. He is a total shitebag. A captain has to lead by examble. Scott Brown would have dished out a few much deserved kicks up holes.

    I know we weren't beat because of who had the captains armband. But it seems like you don't really understand the role of a captain of a football team.
     
  11. Pádraig Pearse

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    We are a better team with Scott Brown in it.
     
  12. Metrobhoy

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    No, I don't believe Brown would have made much difference as Lennon would have went for the same formation. If however, it would have meant a different shape, yes, he would have made a difference but we also had Ledley as an option.

    We couldn't get the ball off Ajax for large periods of the match because we played too many offensive type players. There was no need for that as Ajax needed the win more.
     
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    He would have made a * of a difference last night. Chasing players down, firing rockets at his team-mates and organising play.

    Brooney does all the dirty boring things that are vital to a team like ours having success... it's a shame that so many fans just can't see the importance of it!
     
  14. Pádraig Pearse

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    Exactly :50:
     
  15. TheHolyGoalie

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    I agree but he would only have made a marginal (if that) difference to the performance and the result.
     
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    Yes, he would have. Don't know if it would have been enough to win the game but Brown's a player that is comfortable on the ball in Europe.

    Saying that, so was Kayal last night, it was Charlie that was uncharestically sloppy on it.
     
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    My point exactly. Brown playing would have been a like for like with Kayal.

    That's why I said it wouldn't have made any difference or not enough to change the result anyway. Kayal played pretty well imo.
     
  18. Boss

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    We need a captain who is an extension of our manager on the field.

    I don't see anyone beyond Brown filling this void when he's not playing.

    Being captain seems to me to be a token thing now.

    It used to come with the ability/responsibility to organise, bark commands and deploy leadership.

    Samaras is in his own little world.

    For me, it seems to be a dying trait of giving the captaincy to a player who can organise and communicate.

    I say this for almost all teams now.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't recognise that Brown would have made a difference last night is an idiot. Ajax dominated midfield, he would have combatted that.