Do you miss Rangers?

This isn't true. OK, bile and hatred is inherent in their club; but let's not kid ourselves that those games didn't bring out the worst in us too. I've never been to a CL game and would kill for the chance; never been to a Rangers game and don't want to. The only time I missed Rangers was for a few weeks after Juventus when I was so upset I wasn't thinking straight.

Yes but that club was Motherwell. With all due respect to them, they are a small club. Consider the following quote:

This is a really important point. Hibs will have 25k at Hampden and many more disappointed fans who will miss out on a ticket: where are these people every week? For clubs like this, with sleeping fan bases, things can turn around very quickly. Look how genuinely awful we were in the early 90s! Within a couple of years after "The Bunnet" taking over Tommy Burns is in the middle of building a fantastic team that was desperately unlucky not to win a title (surely the best Celtic team never to do so). Obviously these clubs (Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, maybe Dundee Utd) aren't as big as us; but the principle is the same. Who knows what might have happened at Hearts if that mad * Romanov hadn't sacked Burley! They had a team that looked like it had a chance (albeit only a very slim chance!) of challenging for the title and suddenly Tynecastle wasn't big enough.

For me (assuming Rangers aren't in a position to challenge their first year back) we have 4 seasons (of which 3 left) in which much needed change is far more possible than with Rangers in the SPL. That's 4 rolls of the dice looking for a 6. This year was a disappointment, OK, so we have 3 more goes.

If you look at the long-term interests of Scottish football and not at short-term finances, the longer it takes them to get back the better. Ideally they never make it.

 

I know they are dead, but if they were still in the SPL, as the Oldco, then crowds would not be as low as they have been. Are you grasping my point now! I'm not talking about the Newco! If they had not been liquidated, then I don't think crowds would be anywhere near as low. Some poeple gave up their season book at the prospect of not getting to an Old Firm game!

 

I hated old firms games, they always summed up how awful Scottish football was with the Refs allowing the Huns away with all sorts.

Although I may be a lucky charm, the only old firm games I went to saw 3 Huns sent off and one ko'd.

 

Did they *? Who did that? If anyone did it is a very small minority.

If Celtic were playing football that was enjoyable to watch this season, we would have had great attendances. It hs nothing to do with Oldco, are you grasping my point?

Our average attendance is around 48000 this season, yes it wasn't that but ST holders are counted whether they turn up or not. So that debunks your argument that so many people gave up season tickets because of OldCo.

 

I remember the days when 30 - 35000 was a good crowd for home games cant understand the fixation on crowd numbers these days.
Yes people may miss the competition but does that mean it has to come from govan way ?
Before David Murray Rangers were no longer a real force in Scottish football
Even if The Rangers get into the top flight they will not be the force Rangers were unless they go down the same route of cheating.

 

And if they were still in the SPL and running us close, do you think these people that can't be * going to games would still not be going? Utter pish. Of course they would be there! For some fans this season, the "faithful through and through" has been a load of nonsense. There has been a certain gloryhunting element within our support this season, more so this season than any other I can remember, why do you think that is? People have turned up for big games, now why is that, because if the football is pish, which you say it has been, why then bother to go they games either if you are still going to be watching the same pish!

I know people that gave up their book because there was going to be no Old Firm this year. And just because we had "x amount" of season ticket sales, that does not necessarily mean they were the same people as the year previous when Rangers were in the League. A lot of them might have been new season book holders.

 

Because they actually are motivated for the big games, I'm sure you know that. Whereas the league they do the bare minimum to win it, 14 games this season we have dropped points. And you wonder why people don't turn up? Why would people turn up to watch their team giving nowhere near 100%?

 

Just read this one post and i say Nope ,I don't care for them in anyway ,i hate the tag "the auld firm" i hate everything that they stand for and i don't miss them being in the top league nor do i miss the games against them.

They should not be in existance as they got off lightly by there friends at the home of scottish football ,Hampden, SF is rotten to the core and its been proven over the past year and even now could the SFA actually tell who owns them with whats happened in the past few weeks ,how there still allowed to play a game is beyond me ,rotten to the core.

 

This is just another excuse used by many this year, "why should I bother"! Because if you love your team that much, you would go and support them regardless in my opinion. I don't buy into this garbage about the players can't be arsed so neither am I! Because for that to be the case, you would have to make the effort to actually attend the game, then it's over to the team. Still not excuse for not going to games though I don't think.

 

So you think the players have been acceptably motivated for the majority of this season? Hardly.

It's not an excuse, it's a reason.

 

See if you can't be arsed going to support Celtic through the tough times, don't bother supporting them through the good either! Simple. It can't always be great, look at the 90s for * sake. This season we have achieved more than we have for a long time, yet some people still feel the need to whinge and complain and look for a negative! It's completely embarrassing!

 

Aw * off about the 90s! It's not the 90s anymore. Our competition in the league is much weaker now than it was back now. And I am not even talking about your beloved Deidco.

 

You are moaning for the sake of moaning! Go and support your team and stop complaining about everything! Exactly, it's not the 90s, it's a much better time than that, but you still want to moan about it. Funny how every time there is something negative being discussed, your name crops up constantly! I'm not the one missing Deadco, i'm still enjoying going to games! You on the other hand! You sure it's not yourself that wants them back in the SPL.

 

I think it is you that wants them back. You already said you missed them.

Your argument has become a personal one in that I am negative! Haha, * sake, get a grip!

The only negative thing about this discussion is that you are greeting because you miss the huns!

 

! If you can find one comment where I said I missed them I will concede! I said the complete opposite! How embarrassing for you!

 

That was my first post in this thread! Have a read son, you will see how much I miss them!

"Fans that have stopped going to games purely because Rangers cease to exist now (although they won't admit to it), are the fans that get right on my nerves. These are more than likely the same fans that went to the Champions League games, and went to the game against Inverness when we clinched the League. I don't miss Rangers in the slightest"
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What is wrong with you, mate? Embarrassed? You must not have much of a life if this is the kind of stuff that you think people get embarrassed about You said several times our attendance is * because deidco are no more. That is bad enough.

 

Aye, because i'm annoyed at other fans not going. I'm still attending matches! How does that equate to me missing them? If I was missing them, I wouldn't be going to watch us these days.

 

Well my argument was that the attendances aren't poor because they died. The attendances would be fine if we played decent football consistently this season. And that's the truth of it. The blame lies with lennon and the players in all of this, not the lack of a strong Rangers.

 

And my point is, the football can't be good all the time, still no reason to stop going to watch your team though! A lot of people simply cannot be arsed going these days. Out of curiosity, how many games have you attended this season?