What calibre of manager can Celtic attract nowadays?

When did Lenny say he was interested in good job down south where he has said he want to try.

 

I don't think Lennon has progressed significantly as a manager since he joined.

The initial signs at the beginning of his reign were really positive. He took over the mess left by Mowbray, and got results with the same group. And the football we played at the beginning of his first full season was excellent, and remained that way throughout that campaign. We should have won the League that season.

Neither of his titles are 'tainted', as some across the City will have you believe. But both can, to an extent, be attributed to the collapse and absence of any significant competition.

The philosophy of the club in the transfer market has helped put us in an incredibly healthy situation. But Lennon's involvement there is probably minimal.

The playing philosophy on the pitch is non-existent. Domestic performances have been flat all season, and this year has only been lit up by our European campaign. But again, that is hardly a tactical masterstroke, though he does deserve credit.

He'll get another season if he wants one, he's earned that. I just think that a real smart coach, in addition to our transfer policy could put us lightyears ahead of anything else in Scotland.

 

Of course he's a rookie manager, the guys only been doing the job for a few years, I don't know how you could class him as anything else? He's certainly not experienced.

He's also got relatively inexperienced help in Johan Mjallby, so the two are probably learning together, which may not have been the ideal set up to begin with, however how many decent experienced coaches/managers would want to play second fiddle to Lennon as a brand new manager.

With regards to the actual question, i think we should be careful what we wish for nowadays as I doubt too many decent managers would be interested in a job here. I think we're going along ok with Lennon, the quality of the football has deteriorated slightly but if we win the Scottish Cup then this will have been a cracking season.

 

Throughout our history Celtic have generally went for an ex-player or a supporter to appoint as manager... a 'Celtic man' if you will. When Lennon goes (which I hope is a long time away) we'll probably go for an ex-player, Jackie Mac for example.

An experienced European manager wont come up here because of the league and the lack of money, thats just the way of it.

Not always a bad thing though, look at Conte at Juventus, Guardiola when he was at Barcelona and De Boer at Ajax. 'Homegrown' managers who know what their respective clubs are about, they've done no bad!

 

Spot on!

 

These days all we could attract is the same caliber of manager as player ; young, up-and-coming and wanting to impress.

 

I believe he is a rookie he has only been in management just over 3 years that is nowhere near experienced and as for his record i believe it has been great 2 titles out of 3 , OK its not been the best season on the pitch but motivation is surely hard when you are playing some of the teams in the league .....
Your theory is simple though ...Beat Ross County away and all is well at Parkhead ....
If only things were that simple

 

Paul Le Guen was a 'top' manager and he failed miserably in the SPL.

 

If Lennon leaves us, we're looking at another cheap option. Mjallby or someone. Do we really want that?

I genuinely can't believe that there are some Celtic supporters who think we'd be able to lure someone like David Moyes up here from Everton to 'compete' in a one team league. If we didn't get through the qualifiers this season, it would have been one of the most awful and boring seasons we've ever had.

CL football saved us this season. It was Lennon that got us through the qualifiers and the group stages. He signed the players, he picked the players. There's no guarantee that we're going to be playing CL football again in the coming season though.

 

Thing is though, had Le Guen been given time he might have turned the huns into a decent team.

That's why, just now we could get in a foreign manager and he would have time to build his own team without too much pressure,as the league is a stroll. That is unless Lennon is planning on staying for the long haul.

If NL is planning on leaving in the next few years it would probably be beneficial if he done it this summer so any new man has time to get his own team together in time for the new huns making it into the PL.

 

I think 10 -15 years ago we could have maybe - emphasis on maybe - lured a top 6 manager i.e. someone like David Moyes (today) into the Celtic management, nowadays I find it laughable. The league is terrible and devoid of any finance, which modern managers of top quality require nowadays. I still reckon we could get middle managers, certainly a good up and coming manager.

With regards to Lennon, I reckon he is still learning but its hard to really push your abilities within the Scottish game now. The European games (if we get them) will definitely help him. I don't think he is an A grade manager, never will be, but he is the only man for the job just now, someone who will love the adulation of the crowds and really understand what Celtic stand for. In an ideal world we could attract the Fergies, Mourinho's, Conte's and Gurdiola's but sadly we can't - Lennon is the best option in a realistic world.

The trophies we have been winning haven't been too shabby either!

 

Overrated in my opinion. I always thought he signed with the Hunions to get some cheap publicity in the British game.

Certainly didn't help the fact the entire squad were reluctant to change their way's and act like real 'professional's' and a good few in the squad were besotted with * Barry Ferguson :smiley-laughing002:

 

We'd probably be looking at someone like Owen Coyle.

 

Bingo. Le Guen was chased out the door by the Huns. If you look at even his record vs that of McCoists you will see how unfairly he was treated by the deadco fans, he was trying to revolutionize the team, the training, the diets and the discipline, I'm glad he got chased out because he would've turned them into a team.

You're definitely right that a guy like that who would've needed time and time isn't given in Scottish football, especially with Celtic, we expect instant results, but now we could offer the time for a guy to come in and experiment a bit with it.

I think Jackie McNamara will be Lennon's successor though.

 

Paul Le Guen was merely a cog in the machine at Lyon. It doesn't really provide a proper reflection on his managerial ability. You only have to look at his record since then as proof.

Celtic seem to be aiming to operate a similar model to the one Lyon used to dominate French football from 2002-2008.
Lyon won 7 League titles with 4 different managers -Jacques Santini, Paul Le Guen, Gerard Houllier and Alain Perrin. How many of them were top class managers? (We can argue Houllier, but he was running Liverpool into the ground).

When the manager changed at Lyon, everything else stayed the same. He had a say in transfers, but not THE say. When the manager changed at Lyon, nothing else did.

 

If NL goes I'd take Jackie McNamara in a heartbeat. I really doubt Neil could have done what Jackie did at Partick, with the competition in that league at the time Jackie took over.

EDIT: Just to point out, I don't particularly want Neil to go, but if he does, Jackie would be my choice of replacement. He'd probably need a bit of experience and technical expertise in his backroom team, but I'd trust him to ask the board for the funds for that, rather than blindly appointing just his mates as coaches.

 

I reckon Jackie would be a cracking manager for Celtic.

 

We'd have to see how Jackie does at United, but the signs are good.

He's shown, so far, he can bring success on a budget. If he continues to do that at SPL level, he'll certainly be a candidate.

 

dont really care who manages us (within reason, wouldn't like a facist *) theres leagues all over europe which practice a better football and technique than us in scotland! we could get a coach from these places

gordon strachans team was better than ours this season domestically