Kris Commons

How is he not? Or do you think we're playing two up front?

 

Before the match;
Glad to see we are playing 2 up front!! Guidetti and Stokes or Commons!

After a defeat;
This formation's pish!! Stop playing 1 striker!

 

We haven't been playing two up front. Not in the slightest.

 

Commons is becoming a bit of a liability which I'm gutted about because I * love him and his missus, both seem to have really bought in to the values of the club.

 

I think most people are just lashing out at him in all honesty, there's others in the team and on the bench who aren't doing there jobs anywhere near the level Commons is at the moment. He's not been as good as last season yet but he's top scorer, just scored the goal to win us a game in Europe and anytime he's not played we've had to bring him on because we were falling apart.

Kris Commons isn't the liability, Ronny Deila is at this moment in time.

 

Exactly.

People only moan the formation is wrong when we don't/can't win.

Stokes and Guidetti played to cheers of "two strikers at last". But we lined up with Guidetti up on his own.
We will not change the way we play. Simple really. A manager doesn't abondon his philosophy.
And he also doesn't listen to fans opinions either. If he did he shouldn't be in the job.

It was the same when Lennon was in charge. The exact same arguments - tactically inept, * substitutions, can't score or defend, no fighting spirit, not dropping favourites.

This place is like a * time warp at the minute. I wish we would start winning 6-0 every match just to shut people up.

 

The men at the top of the tree are a problem mate. Ronny Deila has been given a job that is too big for him in my opinion, and it's the people who hired him who are to blame.

 

I don't agree the job is too big for him, it shouldn't be, he needs to show he can adapt.

I do agree with the biggest problem at this club is the ones running it though, they are a cancer.

 

Lennon got rid of 14 players in summer 2010 by loan or permanent.
Deila 9 in 2014.

Lennon signed 14 players in summer 2010.
Deila 7.

A whole squad each way in Lennon's case.

Deila needs time. He also needs the support of the board to get players in/out that will benefit his system.
And to be fair he has been * over with injuries.

 

I don't think the players are fully buying into his vision mate. Either that, or they just aren't good enough to adapt to the new system. I don't believe for one second that Ronny Deila was our top target, and I don't think he was the only one offered the job, but the only one prepared to take it. I don't think he has the full backing from the dressing room though.

All guesswork of course, but that is what I believe.

 

I agree mate, I think Ronny's the one that is showing he's finding it hard to adapt his style to suit the players he has. I've always said, a good manager will play the best players to suit a team, not the best team to suit his style.

That's something he needs to learn. Adapt his ideals to blend results in with the football.

 

I'd go with that, I honestly think Ronny will come good, but seriously why is it so difficult to just play to the teams strengths for the time being until he can bring in the players he needs for his style.

 

It will become more worrying if it becomes clear that he can't see what the strengths are.

Dunno what would be worse though, that he can't see them or that he can and is simply refusing to use them to his benefit.

 

No I don't think we have.a number 10 roll isn't Midfeild. In modern football there's more positions than keeper, defender, midfielder and striker!

Has Rooney been playin in Midfeild for man utd?

 

See I was thinking about this earlier, I mean surely Ronny who in the grand scheme of things an unknown gets a massive job at Celtic would try and adapt to Celtic and not the other way about?

I understand that he has a philosophy and wants to put a stamp on the club but coming in pulling the rug from under everyone and wishing square pegs fall into round holes is clearly not going to work.

I would like to have thought he would come in and look at the players he has got and be briefed on what formations they have been playing and what player plays best in what position and then slowing work his philosophy and style of play into the side.

 

I dont think he has been * over with injuries..We have had players out at different times but weve never been in a crisis. Brown was a big loss but that doesnt excuse the way we crumbled to Legia and Maribor. It doesnt exactly help when we signed players who were ineligible (Guidetti) and also injured (Tonev). Commons was availible and wasnt picked and it took him time to realise we are a more dangerous team with Commons on the park. Whats more is we have stuck with Stokes who fails to give us sufficient goals and we have left the best finisher at the club on the bench.

Point being- although we have had injuries, we have never had a crisis and we have the players to more than adequtely cover.

 

Commons played away in Warsaw. This is something I can't get my head round. Away in Warsaw, everyone said we were far too open, then Deila rectified that by dropping Commons in Maribor, and nearly everyone had said he had learned from his mistake in Warsaw after we got a positive result. Then Conmons was dropped again for the return leg, and the same people then complained for not playing Commons. Deila couldn't really win in my opinion. I felt sorry for Deila going in to the qualifiers. He went into them with a team that had been embarrassed in Europe last year, and we had lost more players since that in Samaras and Ledley, who were both regulars in Europa for us. We also still hadn't brought in a much, much needed striker.

 

I think we need to find a role a wee bit different for Commons . Currently he seems to be coming out from the opponents back four to receive the ball at his feet . It looks to me that he is always expecting a big rough tackle from behind and hence his control is terrible .
If we could get more passes to him with him facing the opponents goals I think we would get far more use of his creative skills .

 

You know what i hate the fact that half the time he plays * and if he ever gets dropped any bad thing that happens is blamed on him not being in the team, commons is a waste for the system we are trying to play he is far to slow to turn and run with the ball and he loses it half the time he gets it. Commons is a very inconsistent player and even was last season just the goal scoring saved him when hes not scoring he is no where near the team which was apparent in his second season under Lennon.

If we want to progress under Deila we need to drop commons, too much of our play breaks down through him we cant expect to be a fast counter attacking side when he takes so long on the ball and half the time he loses it. half the support is deluded about commons he loses the ball more than any other player and if it was anyone else they would be calling for their head.

 

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last year in our pishy league he was scoring for fun but when we play him in a tough game he's non existant he just doesnt produce WORK and maybe in the scottish game he can get away with hiding but not in the big games

he's the one that scott brown was talking about