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Scott Brown

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by hkbhoy, May 15, 2007.

Discuss Scott Brown in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. St Patrick

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    He's crap, end of. Supposed to be the inspiration, the talisman, our great white hope. Has he ever come near to living up to the promise? It's embarassing that Kayal is infinitely better, has to cover his mistakes and gets paid far less for his efforts. I hope to * this new contract is designed to just cash in on him, not that I think we could get more than two million, otherwise I fear for Lennon.
     
  2. GovanCasino

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    moron.
     
  3. St Patrick

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    I know, he really is.
     
  4. Soul Rebel

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    I don't really get the hate for Scott Brown, you sound like Rangers fans with all this "bringing it on himself" and the hate being "justified". And saying that he isn't a right midfielder is bollocks, the couple of times i've seen him on the right i've been impressed, his work rate is very good.
    I worry about him in Old Firm games now and again because he does pick up the odd stupid yellow card, but is there a player in the midfield that isn't guilty of that now and again??
     
  5. TIC_TOCK

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    Is Scott Brown worth £4.4m? Not in a million years he doesn't have the ability to merit that price tag. In what area does Scott Brown shine? Is it his superb passing? His goals to game ratio? Is it his tackling (* knows he has enough bookings to show for it)? Other than running about a lot and 'doing the Broony' what does he do well?

    The best thing that ever happened to Scott Brown was El Hadji Diouf.
     
  6. GovanCasino

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    no he's not.

    guy has a really good football brain, a very clever footballer if not the brightest spark off the pitch.

    has a swagger and cockiness about him that i love to see in players. i couldn't stand the guy until last season, but he's finally looking like a celtic player. keeps the ball superbly, i think his possession retention rate in the 2-2 draw at the bigotdome was 96%. he's brilliant and i bet you, like every other celtic fan, were fawning over him after his displays last season. now for some reason he's back on the internet fans hitlist.
     
  7. GovanCasino

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    more nonsense.

    he keeps the ball superbly, makes great runs from MF and wins the ball back very well. he's growing into the role of celtic captain very well.

    i was firmly in the browns a headless chicken camp but he won me over last season, this thread and the ridiculous comments in it is just revisionism at its worst.
     
  8. gunt

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    Running around, tacking runners, blocking passing angles, putting the opposition off etc is a * of a lot of what MFs do. I think people underrate this aspect. It probably occupies about 75% of a MFs time and Broony has the energy and mobility to be very good at it. The guy also is pretty good at retaining the ball under pressure and wriggling away, twisting etc to keep the ball. That is pretty important in a rough and tumble league like the SPL. He is also highly mobile and covers vast areas of the pitch. It gives us a mix. You dont want all your players to be working in a 20 yard radius in the centre of the park like they are tied to a stake. You need a mix of positional players who do that and others who are mobile. There is a lot more to his game that just running about.

    There is a lot of negative mythology about Broony too The thing about his passing too just is not borne out in the stats. He has the odd bad game but normally he is up there with Ledley etc for completed passes. He also is not that much different in scoring rate from our other MFs who have defensive duties. He was never a high scoring MF, even at Hibs his average was not high. Only in his final season there did he score many. Another myth is his discipinary record. His record is not that bad at all, certainly in terms of red cards. I would bet that Kayal will get more reds than Broony over the coming years because he does a lot of old fashioned slide tackling. Noone does that any more. The modern game is to stay on your feet and block passing angles or 'running round like a headless chicken' as people with no clue about football call it.
     
  9. Metrobhoy

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    Good post mate. Brown's passing is pretty decent. People over-look the chances he creates like for Hooper's disalowed goal in Sion or the one Commons missed in the cup final last year. A hopeless passer of the ball cannot do this.

    So many people go on about Joe Ledley's work-rate and stuff off the ball. Shame they can't see this in Broony's game because the manager certainly does:50:
     
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    john what you have failed to high light is Browns play is not direct,85%
    of his game is pass the ball back the way , any old guy playing five a sides can master that. putting it in to prospective, has kayal at 1/4 of the cost, got any where near to, Browns ability, on your evaluation Brown has taken more from the club, than he has put in
     
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    John? oh Bannerman doh!
     
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  12. Artur Boruc #1

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    The truth about Scott Brown lies somewhere in the middle between the opinions of his fanbhoys who think he's the best thing since sliced bread, and those who love nothing more than to slate him and who'd make you think he's the worst player to ever pull on a Celtic jersey.
     
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    The only problem i have, i think he is alright, is that with brown captain no matter how derisory his performance may be he will keep his place, that is my only problem with brown as captain.

    While the wide midfielder role is better suited for him at celtic than in CM, he comes inside all to often and takes the space of our central midfielders, he leaves the full back exposed far too often as well.
     
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    would you rather he gave the ball away? keeping the ball is a huge part of football, we do it superbly at times.
     
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    what are you basing this on? what evidence is there that brown will keep his place if he's not playing well?

    he's naturally going to drift inside, which is a good thing, and i cant remember him leaving our FB open, if anything he provides more cover.
     
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    what, that is 30% of his play giving it away, where you been mate, the guy is crap, doing superbly at it, is just as i say about his play, i could tie a pole a lump of string and a ball on to Brown, and the daft :31: * would still try and chase after it, as like his play always chasing but never getting there
     
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    Its also funny how Brown gets abused for his selection week-in-week out rather than the man who chooses the 11.

    If we are so trusting with Lennon, why can't so many trust his judgement of Brown.

    To say Brown adds nothing is to say Lennon knows nothing.
     
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    Lennon's judgement will come at the end of the season. Of course he's made mistakes(Lennon) but if he gets us the title then its a job done.

    The continual failure in Europe has to be addressed though.

    To one of the previous posters who says he's ''good at closing people down,etc'' thats the least i expect from a professional football player in 2011.

    I expect actual football ability from a player on 25k a week. I dont see it with Scott Brown - seemingly the only thing you see in Broony is the least we should expect from every player who pulls on a Celtic shirt.
     
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    Bullshit. Managers make mistakes and everybody has a difference of a opinion.

    The fact Broony is on 1million+ a year would maybe edge him ahead in selection of say Paddy McCourt probably on a quater of that though.