UCL Last 16: Celtic v Juventus Chat

I take it the only way to obstruct a goalkeeper would be to stand in front of him while he is running towards the centre of the pitch with the ball his hands then?

 

Hooper usually always stands where he was standing against Juventus at corners.

The defender was looking AWAY from the ball the whole time during the corner with his hands on Hooper, it's a foul.

 

No, it would be too move in his way whilst he is on his way to another part of the pitch. Just like any other player.

 

Also, Roskopichu, have you seen how many goals Hooper has scoted for us in the position he's standing in? That is his main scoring position from corners, bout 2 yards out in the 6 yard box getting onto ricochets, shoddy clearances, dropped balls, stray shots, stray headers, off the post, off the bar...

Seen him do all of the above from that position for us.

 

This would make more sense, I just disagreed on the "Obstruction is blocking a player who is in control of the ball" comment.

 

Juventus fan here in peace.

Im a little chocked to see you guys blaming the ref for the match??? Is't only normal for a deffender to protect his goalkeper, Hooper was trying to get close to Buffon and distract him , and Lichsteiner was trying to keep him away! In my oponion there were NOTHING! Maybe in the second half when Padoin was holding Brown was a Penalty!

- Is't not like you were one on one with the keeper and "lost" a chance of the incidents! The ball was not even close to the episodes.

If you guys remember well the BIGGEST mistake of the match was Juvenus first goal! Bout nobody remember bacause we scored anyway! But had Marchisio not arrived, we would be cheated for a goal! Vidal was triped just outside the box i a CRAZY tackling!

- Instead you schould focuse on, Celtic being the best team PLAYING time on the night - FOR SURE! Was very suprised by tempo and the heart! And a time's beatifull football. 0-3 was for sure not the right result! If you check som Statistic you will find out, Juventus is actualy one of the teams in europe with most Possesion, but against Celtic we could not manage 3 passes in a row, because of the pressure! I would say it's the worst match i've seen Juve play in more than a year, but I give credit to Celtic for that part! Never seen a team put press like that!

- But giving the ref the blame, is just to weak! Focus on that' Celtic in my opinoin was in some periods of the match outplaying one the biggest clubs in Europe.

Forgive me for my english!

 

So standing in the six yard box at a corner isn't obstruction.

 

Benvenuti. Grazie!

 

Still * raging with the refereeing and gutted about the result.

 

We all are.

 

Ciao, I'm sure 99% of people on here will agree that juventus are a better team than Celtic but it's not always the best team that wins. Lichtsteiner pushed hooper in to the net before you scored your first goal, if Celtic had gotten a penalty and scored it then it would have been a totally different game. The play acting a times from your team was terrible especially when lichtsteiner pushed brown over and then feigned injury to make it appear that brown had stamped on him. You can't blame Celtic fans for blaming the referee, if the referee had carried out his job properly, it would have been a different score.

 

Once we agreed that the definition has changed in between the two posts above, my answer would be that it depends.

You never see players doing what hooper did in Germany, Italy, France or Spain. The reason is plain simple: it would result in a free-kick as soon as the corner kick is taken, and it would be seen as if the striker was trying to start an argument. Pushing the striker away in these situation is not formally accepted but it is often tolerated.

I understand this may be a cultural issue, as many have noticed before.

 

well the referee also failed to see that Matri's shot crossed your goal line, Juve only got it eventually because marchisio scored again. That in my opinion was the biggest mistake the ref made last night.

 

If a free kick would definitley have been given then wouldn't the Juve defenders have been betting letting that happen rather than risking a sending off and giving away a penalty by pulling shirts and wrestling players to the ground ?

 

Good point. I guess it goes back to what I was mentioning before, in these situations pushing the opponent is often tolerated.

 

This.

 

To get a penalty after 3 min, then it must be REALLY clear! In my oponion things like these happens every time there is a Corner kick in football! And Juventus is not worse than Celtic! Could be a penalty, could be a free kick - but ref was right not to give anything! Could understand if we robbed you for a chance, but it was just a corner!

- The iccident with brown. The Italian media was focusing specialy on this! I Have seen about a 100 times now, Brown was standing on his foot and he give him a soft punch! Very soft! Lichsteiner was acting YES! But so was Brown, and he started the incident.

Just saying again! You can't seriously blame the ref! If he did allow you a goal, or you were kicked down one on one with the keeper, then i can understand! But We are talking about a corner kick, that was not even near Hooper!

 

The ref couldn't be 100% that the ball had crossed the line, no referee in the world would have been certain. The fouls on the Celtic players were 100% against the rules of the game. The fact that the ref didn't give the goal the first time doesn't mean anything.

 

I don't think any fair person can argue that not giving the goal was yet another bad error from a terrible referee; but since Marchiso did follow up it didn't actually affect you. His other bad decisions did actually badly affect us.

 

A lot of the Juve visitors on here have been making this point but to us - and I think to most northern Europeans - the sort of play-acting that Lichsteiner did after seeing Brown go to ground is infinitely worse than anything Brown, for the sake of argument, may or may not have done.

We would see it as one of the worst aspects of the modern game and it is not tolerated - much less encouraged - in Scottish, Irish, English, Dutch, German or Scandinavian football as far as I am aware.