11th Anniversary September 11th

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZaqvPM12Wc&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]A&E 9/11 Truth prove that FINAL REPORT WAS FALSE! Evidence presented! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNXqkZO3Y1g&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]9/11: Eliminate the Impossible - YouTube[/ame]

This is an excellent video which welcomes all its points to be challenged, unlike rkowens vids posted by galileo

 

The fires were burning out of control in the lower floors and there was no way the firefighters could get anywhere near it to fight it. The supports gave way at the bottom and the building went into freefall - simples. There is no way in * it would collapse like the twin towers.

There are several conspiracy sites about the WTC atrocity and they are all laughable, one twit even goes as far as to print that the North and South Towers collapse was caused by demolition explosives-moron! Probably the same guy who tries to deny the Apollo Moon Landings, even though NASA has supplied pictures of the landing sites taken by a satellite detailing the lander and Moon Rover still in situe along with the Rovers tracks snaking over the Moons surface!

Anyhoo lets get back to the real world and into the fact that is the Mayan Calendar and the Mayan prophecy of the Apocalypse 2012, just 3 and a half months to go folks!

 

NIST claim it fell due to thermal expansion on floor 12, column 79. Still cant acount for freefall and molten steel

 

Give it up mate.....you're wasting your time.There will always be some people that see a conspiracy in everything, no matter what.

 

It was no more irrelevant than yours!

 

Well I tend to side with the metallurgists and building engineers on this! Quite often the obvious explanation is the correct one but there are always those who will deny even the experts and give birth to conspiracy theories. From my understanding of the events the collapse was pretty normal given the fact its legs were taken away, nip up behind your pal and knock the back of his knee when it is locked and he will start to freefall!:bbpd:

 

Because the supports were removed..... just debunked your own loose claims.

As for the molten steel, they just denied it existed.

Why did they remove all their references to the collapse being "consistent with physical principles" in their final report after David Chandler debunked their 40% longer than freefall claim.

Also only column 79 failed, this happened on floor 12. All columns must fail within miliseconds to allow synced global collapse to ensue at the rate of freefall.

NIST claim this was a progressive collapse due to fire but the evidence doesnt agree.

This is why the declined to release there computer model used to draw their cobclusions claiming it would "jepordise public safety" if we understood how they reached their conclusion.

Go behind your pal, clip his knees. when he falls will his arms still be connected to his body and his head to his shoulders?

Tower 7 was broken into small pieces able to be carted off, the precise goal of controlled demolition and the least likely thing in a natural collape

:bbpd:

 

If you believe the governments story then you believe their conspiracy theory. No matter what way you slice 9-11 it involved people conspiring.

 

What is your source? Why are you so adamant that there is a conspiracy, are you telling me that the US deliberately demolished all the towers including a Hotel to keep Bush in power and kill thousands of their own people. Conspiracies are good fun, but this one is a joke and a bad one at that, it is that bad that no one is trying that hard to debunk it.Two Aeroplanes smacked into the North Tower and the South Tower, they collapsed due to said incidents and took out a lot of neighbouring buildings with it, either directly with the initial collapse or indirectly by the subsequent out of control fires.

Re the knee thing, yeah arms and head will still be connected as will the windows and frames of a freefalling building ,the contents of a pail of water, the sweets inside a Roses box etc, it is basic physics until it hits summit that wont give such as the ground or your stubborness, then the gathered kinetic energy is delivered violently to both the object and the stubborn object which is often the ground, then you get dents, holes, scattered sweets, a wet floor and a busted building!

 

Another guy that thinks "conspiracy" means a genre of entertainment.

Whats my source for what?

Freefall: nist final report, video evidence

Eutectic steel: fema appendix C, and the yard where a few samples were saved

Temperatures above what office fires and jet fuel can generate: NASA thermal images, workers at the site, giulliani statement, iron micropheres, molten steel pouring out of south tower before collapse

watch this


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9nE372Ymc4&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]911stealth Bush's Legacy: Meteorites From Molten Iron. NIST Denial - YouTube[/ame]

 

first off the building fid not go into freefall, and notice how you couldnt couonter any of the points made in the video. The Buildings collapsed because the massive fire fueled by jet fuel and all the flammable material in the offices weakened the already weakened support beams which almost destroyed after the plane crash, and evetually the weight of the building on top became to much and the support beams snapped, meaning the entire top half of the building came down on top of the bottom half which started the collapse

 

burning jet fuel when mixed with the desks and papers in the offices would have become like nalpalm, not only were these falling on building 7 the whole time but when building 1 collapsed a good portion of it came down on building 7, by around 5pm the whole building was on fire, its not unknown for a building that high to collapse due to fire even on half its floors, but had in the damage from the towers and its a wonder than it didnt fall before it did.

 

lol your talking about planes on my tower 7 quote.

 

lol I loved that video when I was a truther, but its all fluff and no fact, most of what he claims to be true in the video actually arent, hey straight out lies about mostly everything including the course of the NIST investigation, and unlike the video I provided yours doesnt provide credible sources to back it up

 

I have a great conspiracy theories thread we could have used for this debate...

 

Galileo ate u denying tower 7 went into freefall for 2.5 seconds?

Just so I know what level of debunder im dealing with

 

Do you believe that the hijackers passport survived the crash?

 

Galileo is right, it was the evil terrorists that done it. here is their evil cave den as sold by the US government!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0XI1X34mQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player"]Rumsfeld Describes Elaborate Cave System in Afghanistan - YouTube[/ame]

 

You're having a laugh there. That one you posted was anything but credible.