John Collins

I'm talking about as number two. Not the manager. Anyway that's not the point, the point is John Collins is not the man for the job, neither is Deila. Whether you want to accept that or not is another thing.

I also don't think it needs to be a big name manager but their you go.

We've already seen a good young manager leave Hamilton, handle a very difficult league in the English Championship and then onto bigger and better things.

Deila's a dud in Europe. Collins is an arrogant, patronizing guy who's head is stuck up his own *. Just my thoughts like

 

Lennon bought those players mate, the accounts show that they've had about the same. Deila's just spent poorly on the 19 odd signings he's had yet. I'm not turning this into a comparison between Lenny and Deila, it's * daft.

We are counting on growing in Europe, Deila took over when we were a Champions League club, we were expected to maintain that and grow under the conditions the board have set. We haven't achieved that.

He wasn't coming in to save an absolute trainwreck and a financially disaster of a season. He needs to be judged on his own merits, on where he's taken us. Not on where any other manager has done under extremely different circumstances.

What will they do next year to try and stick up for him because there's zero chance we'll be in the last 16 next season. Honest to * man, it's * daft.

 

John Collins is the biggest clown at the entire club and that's saying something. I honestly think he lives in his own little wonderland inside his head.

 

Och behave yourself! We were more or less embarrassed in our last CL campaign under Lennon with the end result - he knew we were sliding as a club and jumped ship when he wasn't given adequate funds for the players he wanted to take us up a notch - the team was on the decline before Ronny took over (in terms of European-wise, although granted we still made it to the CL).

European form under Ronny's reign has been abysmal - I won't deny that.

 

I honestly don't know what people see as being the problem with Collins?

 

By the end of that season we were a far better team, the CL campaign came far too soon after selling the spine of our team. We were still their though, that's what counts for us just now and that's how we grow. Deila admitted himself when he took over he was here to grow us in Europe, he said last year after the qualifier he should be judged on the qualifiers this year. This year he says we will be their next year.

We need to be in the Champions League. That's Ronny's remit. Right now we've now been taking down to one of the worst teams in the Europa League. I wouldn't fancy us beating any team in Europe.

 

That's not just Ronny's remit - it's the remit of the entire Celtic heirarchy, and by my judgement they are ALL failing on that matter.

Anyways, we've taken this thread off topic too long now, we shall discuss it more in the Deila thread

 

No offence Devlin mate but you really forget just how bad we were in Lennons last year.
We had a front line that consisted of Amido Balde who couldnt score a goal anywhere,Pukki who was the same,Stokes again a guy that cant score for * in Europe and the 1 game in 10 wonder that was Samaras.
Then on top of this you have Mulgrew,Lustig,Forest,Derk who are always injured.
Even Broonie then had a hip problem.
We then sold an England international keeper.

Ronny comes in and its his fault we didnt qualify though right?

 

Its also a myth that Ronny has spent the same on player transfers.

Lennon spent more in his first transfer window than Ronnys spent in 2.

And this is not me having a go at Lennon here because you have to look at the bigger picture,if anybodys to blame its the * board for not backing any of our managers the way the should .

Because the business is meant to fund the football not the other way round.

 

So by the end of that season Stokes, Griffiths and Commons weren't the attacking players? Scoring for fun? Stokes scored 14 in 16, Griffths had 7 in 14 and Commons broke the 30 goal barrier to get to 32 goals, we were breaking defensive records and got to 99 points, the highest since O'Neill's record breaking season.

Amido, Pukki and co were out of the picture. Broony was over his hip problem, that wasn't that season, he played every league game Lenny's last season if I remember right.

Lennon didn't sell Forster either, he played against Legia Warsaw under Ronny.

 

The attacking players you mention,what are their goal statistics in Europe before Lennon left that season?

Because you have just told me their Domestic stats.

Also i vividly remember Pukki flopping like * against Legia.

 

I have because my point was we were stronger at the end of the season, the CL campaign came far too early for a team that just had it's full spine ripped out, the most important thing was getting there.

He did, he was out the picture under Lennon. Ronny came in and thought Pukki upfront himself was a better idea than the partnership formed by Stokes and Griffiths.

 

I like him, he's smug, he's arrogant and he's got a bit of swagger about him. I like * like that when they're on your side. Like I love Broony.

I think him and Deila's very similar though, listening to them it sounds like a bit of tunnel vision.

 

So did Lennon.

 

No he never :smiley-laughing002:

People honestly warp that season to *. We signed Griffiths in January mate.

 

Aye this is very true,but you wid be * if he didnt like you lol:smiley-laughing002:

 

I was being sarcastic in my reply to your "point".

Deila tried Pukki, he was *, and was sold.

 

I never said he didn't. I said he decided it was a better option. Which he did.


This was around the time he thought Griffiths was a winger though I think. Somecunt should have told him he was a striker.