Paddy McCourt: Why does he receive the adulation he does from our fans?

Then why did you keep asking about it? It's * obvious

I've never seen Paddy do a stepover in my life either and I'd rather see more goals of Paddy's caliber against Inverness Caley Thistle of all people, considering what happened when they skelped us 3-2 up there.

 

Unique and entertaining player in the team, soon as he gets the ball I get a rush of excitement because you just expect him to come up with something special.

I dont overapprecitate or overate Paddy though, all our players are as important as each other.

I would like to see Paddy start a run of matches to see how he gets on, dont know who could make way for him but if the league is wrapped up very early on we could see this extended run?

 

What's * obvious devlin1888?

 

I'll take this in baby steps.

1) Where is a massive part of our support based?
2) When that certain place see's a very exciting player, score some genius goals for a club they love what happens?
3) How does that express itself?

 

As I stated, some of your posts on this thread seem a bit hostile towards Paddy (my reading of it) The girlfriend/wife thing, I was being flippant.

For a player you say you don't dislike you sure are writing a lot of negative things about him.

one of the many good things about football is forums like this where you get a lot of differing points of view and reading your opinions on this thread leads me to think you don't like Paddy very much (not dislike, just not like very much) that better

 

The confusing thing is, you haven't actually put any points forward on why Celtic fans wouldn't like Paddy or cover him in adulation?

 

Don't patronise me...

What's your point? I've already covered all the stuff about him being Irish. I couldn't give a * if he's from Ireland, Scotland, Palestine, Brazil wherever, I purely base it on FOOTBALL credentials. As Mr Stein once said "'' It is not his creed nor nationality which counts - it's the man himself". He doesn't deserve his adulation. End of story.

 

Everything in my OP is why Celtic fans shouldn't. He made ZERO SPL starts last season and was fit for the vast majority of the season. I don't believe a bench warmer with no ambition for his own career is worthy of praise because he beats 2 men in the 90th minute to wrap up a 4-0 victory. He does not deserve the acclaim. Why can you not comprehend this fact?

 

You were the one who brought it up, so don't go in a wee cream puff when you get an answer. That's your answer.

It's a mixture of a few things.

Goals like I showed you, passes like the one into Cha for his goal last season, where he is from, the fact he's a die hard Tim, the fact he loves our support, the fact that we decided to back him to the hilt when he started getting death threats from the scummy parts of our country because of the all of the above.

I don't understand why you think we should not sing his name?

 

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Statistically Forrest may have scored more goals…

Is that what you’re referring to?

 

So you admit the fact he's a Celtic fan from Northern Ireland contributes to his popularity? Finally a bit of honesty, thank you! Ah he's a die hard time, that is #1. I mean who cares if he's a bench warmer, he's never started in a Cup Final, he's started a total of 1 European match and a total of 1 match against the huns, had 0 starts in the SPL last season, didn't contribute significantly to any of our success bar 1 or 2 winners in the 80 odd SPL matches Neil Lennon has taken charge of. If death threats contribute then why no 'One Niall McGinn' at the time of those sickening events?

 

Rude Bhoy

How many SPL games did McCourt last season and how many overall goals did McCourt score last season? Also in a total of roughly 20 derby matches McCourt could have started in throughout his Celtic career, how many did he start in? Furthermore of the 4 years he's been at the club, how many European matches has our genius started under 3 different Celtic managers?

There is no possible way, statistically or otherwise, you can justify stating McCourt has done as much or more for Celtic than James Forrest. Except for "Ah really love Paddy's dribbling, he's a propa tim, Pat McCourt's * army..."

 

Are you jealous? Again for a player you claim you don't dislike you sure sound as if you don't like him.

You base your like of a player purely on FOOTBALL credentials, yes? There isn't a more naturally gifted FOOTBALLER at Celtic park than Paddy McCourt, his skill on the ball, his ability to take on several players at a time and retain control of the ball, his eye for a pass.

Maybe the fans should have buttons fixted to the seats at Celtic park, at the end of the game you can vote for who made the biggest contribution that day and then we can use that data to decide who's name is sung at the next match. poor game, no songs for you, scored one, set one up, get the song sheets out Bhoys.

 

No, he's started more games, he's scored more goals, he's set up more goals, he's played more minutes on the park, he's contributed towards more points, he's done better in Europe.

I like Paddy, I think we should play him more, however he hasn't done more in a Celtic shirt than James Forrest.

I have said all throughout this thread it contributes to his popularity but it isn't the reason.

There was 'One Niall McGinn' at the time of those significant events, especially when he started getting a few starts around about that time.

Lets make this simple:

1) Do you accept that being a local bhoy makes him popular for a large majority of our fanbase?
2) Do you believe his skill shown, in goals and passing etc of what I have shown you is worthy of praise?
3) Do you believe we should back our players when issued with death threats because of where they are from and because they are associated with our club?

 

Paddy is exciting, but he contributes very little to the team when he's on the pitch. He's capable of amazing goals or an incredible pass, but is more likely to just turn it over. On defense he sleep walks. There's a reason he's a sub that only gets introduced late when the team needs goals.

 

If he's so wonderfully gifted, or *snigger* the most talented football player at the club, why on earth did Neil Lennon not see the utter breathtaking Zidane-esque genius that you do and give him 1 start out of 38 possible starts in the glorious competition known simply as the SPL? Why has he never started a Cup Final at Hampden? Started in more than 1 derby? Started in more than 1 European match? Can you explain that to me gentlemen...

 

You seem to be contradicting yourself a bit there Frank.

You seem to be trying to goad people into saying that the reason Paddy gets so much adulation is because he is Irish but then ask why no "One Niall McGinn"?

I would like to ask you that very question? If the adulation is all about the Irishness then why no "One Niall McGinn" or "Murphy" etc...

 

He contributes very little to the team but when we need a goal we turn to him....

Surely setting up goals is a significant contribution?

 

I think he meant the team work ethic, he's our only player who doesn't work hard off the ball. I'd find a place for him regardless though, you can carry a player with his passing ability and his dribbling ability. Especially in the SPL.

 

'1) Do you accept that being a local bhoy makes him popular for a large majority of our fanbase?
2) Do you believe his skill shown, in goals and passing etc of what I have shown you is worthy of praise?
3) Do you believe we should back our players when issued with death threats because of where they are from and because they are associated with our club?'

Funny I didn't know Paddy was Scottish, silly me.

No because they have been highly insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Please answer the football questions I just asked Rude Bhoy about the Derry Pele.

Yes obviously we should back any staff member of Celtic Football Club if they receive death threats, however that doesn't mean that should contribute to their popularity. Unlike Neil Lennon, Paddy McCourt, and indeed Niall McGinn, are not Celtic legends, not Celtic heroes and have not done anything of serious note in a Celtic jersey whether domestically or in Europe. Face the facts.