Euro 2012 Group C

As are Duff and McGeady.

 

McGeady is a game changer, Dunne isn't though.

 

McGeady, Duff and Dunne are not game changers at international level.

 

Well if single handedly winning Ireland a point away to Russia isn't an example of changing a game, I don't know what is.

 

I just think they've been very lucky so far.. As you'll see in my post a page or two back.

 

I don't think McGeady is for Ireland at all, Paul why do you think he's so good for Ireland?

 

McGeady iS. He carried Ireland last Saturday. Duff used to be but he's past his best. Dunne is a great player but not a "game-changer"

 

Wish people would stop posting this kind of thing.

We wouldn't have qualified without Dunne. He's our most significant player.

 

Well that's just plain *. McGeady won the game for Ireland against Bosnia for a recent example. Duff has been a game changer for Ireland for years and Dunne is a world class defender who single handedly won Ireland a point in Russia.

 

Because he has the quality. He did it on Saturday, he won Ireland the game. And don't give it the "he doesn't have a final ball pish" - it is simply untrue.

 

I'm not denying that, he is a great player. But he isn't a game changer. McGeady is cause he could set up a golden chance, Keane is cause he can score from nothing. Given is cause he can pull off spectacular saves. Dunne isn't, unless you count last ditch tackles as "gamechanging"

 

Yeah but because he played well in a game ( i know hes played well in a good few for Ireland) doesnt make him a game changer. We seen it all the time at Celtic when he would shy away from a game if things werent going his way. You cant serious put at Levels with even the likes of Giovinco or Nocerino or the lesser Spainish players like Carzola or Jesus Navas. I'm sorry but he just isnt at that level.

P.S : This is elite level International tourny. A 32 year old Richard Dunne isnt a game changer in this group. Listen to yourself man.

 

No he isn't, but he doesn't need to be to be a game changer. The chance he set up for Long changed the game... hence "gamechanger"

 

I'd definite a 'game-changer' as someone who can have a direct impact on the result. We have a number in the team (thank *, as we're not blessed with quality), and the following are those type of players, for us: Given, Dunne, McGeady, Keane.

There are other important players, of course, but they're our key players.

 

I suppose but surely then you have to term every winger/ wing backs and attacking midfielders as game changers. Walters scored a decent amount of goals in the qualifiers and played a good part but he isnt termed a game changer even if you can through the ball into the box and he'll probly get a decent head to it.

 

Pretty much this. Like I have said before if those 4 players perform Ireland have a chance.

 

McGeadys Ireland career has been pretty average paul, I don't remember him ever having a huge impact in a big game where there was a lot for stake, ie dunne v Russia, keane has done it in several big games as has given.

 

See im different with my definition. I'd say its the same as you as well as the level that it is at.

McGeady was a game changer for Celtic and is for Spartak but he is going to be up against. Ramos/Arbeloa/Alaba/Juan Fran with Spain, then Maggio/Abate/Balzaretti and Srna/Chorluka. He isnt going to get much joy against them. Then Dunne, notoriously slow defender, isnt going to coup to well with Olic (rediculous amount of energy/good pace) Jelevic ( very quick feet) Eduardo (very clever movent), Torres ( pace, quick feet, strength on his day) Llorente ( Bosses any defender that plays against him) Di Natalie ( quick great movement) he just isnt going to be able to cope with that relentless attack talent.

 

That doesn't change the fact he is a quality player and has the ability to be a game changer.

And you can't just base your views on his Ireland career you have to look at the bigger picture, he regularly performed well with Celtic and Spartak.

 

Eh, our wingers don't get much of a look-in, due to our tactics more than anything. McGeady has been one of our brightest players throughout our last campaign.