Is Anyone Else Getting Fed Up With The Conspiracy Nonsense?

this is what i think but i have looked at todays incident so many times and i don't know how that could be an honest mistake.

 

Exactly. Jock would feel no need to make this statement unless he felt there was bias from the refs. It is a case of having to be so much better than your opponent that you negate the refereeing bias.

 

Spot on Paul, couldn't have put it better myself.

 

I agree, I just don't think today was an example of it. Officials got plenty wrong today but I honestly thought both sides had grievances with them, not a case of us being cheated. The game a couple of weeks ago at mordor on the other hand I don't think we were ever going to be allowed to win.

 

Agree with the original poster.

The constant excuse making, ref blaming & paranoia that they're all out to get us when a decision goes against us is pathetic.

I attend games every week with Celtic and i guarantee you we get the benefit of doubt 9 times out of 10 in matches.

Referee's do make mistakes (they are human?) and will make decisions that are debatable and that some will agree with and others not. Its football after all and has been this way for decades.

We were lacklustre and flat today and i dont accept that. Not against an average abject Hearts team who's weekly wage bill would probably be less than Ledley & Brown's combined.

Referee's and talk of conspiracys is nothing but a smokescreen for those who are stupid enough to go alang way it.

 

Isn't it funny how folk who think we don't get cheated can only offer an opinion but those of us who belive we do get cheated can cite cold hard facts...?

Yet it's still not enough to convince some people?

I find that quite funny and a little sad if I'm honest.

 

Fancy sharing these "facts"?

Dougie and Farry I wholeheartedly agree with you but I'm intrigued by the rest

 

Hugh Dallas, once a top official in Scotland, was recently sacked from his position within the SFA because he sent an e-mail around slandering the Pope and accusing him of being a paedophile. This is the same man who officiated the so-called "shame game" in 1999 and presented the Huns with an awful lot of dubious decisions on that day, which helped them win the title at the home of their arch rivals.

Now, would it be fair to say that Dallas was always impartial when refereeing Celtic games, bearing in mind the fact that he obviously can't stand us? I think not.

I'm not saying that this extends to any of the referees officiating in the Scottish game today, but it's quite possible that there are one or two with the same mindset that Dallas had throughout his refereeing career and evidently still has to this day. After all, we are a club with deep Irish and Catholic roots, playing in a predominantly Protestant country. The anti-Irish and anti-Catholic sentiment that exists in Scotland is well documented.

As I've said before; call me paranoid, but it's the truth.

 

What's sad is thinking every ref's decision against us is part of some big conspiracy to defeat Celtic for reasons unknown to anybody - while ignoring the decisions that wrongfully go our way. (i.e Hooper's goal today).

 

For those quoting Stein did he not also say something like "A good Celtic team cannot win the league, it has to be a great Celtic team"?

 

As soon as i seen Euan Norris coming out of the tunnel i thought we were going to be have to be on top off our game to get anything today.Heres a list of all his games,hardly a big game referee.

http://www.football-lineups.com/referee/595/

13 SPL M.4 Inverness 0:2 Rangers 20 4 2 2 6623
20-Nov-10 SPL M.14 Kilmarnck 2:3 Rangers 27 4 1 2 10177

If i remember correctly them 2 games had some very dubious decisions in them too?

Edit:1/5 rating he got in that link too,wonder why eh?

 

Nobody is saying that every single decision against us is part of a big conspiracy. Of course you'll get decisions against you, it's just the frequency of them that is infuriating people. The comparison between Hooper's goal and the penalty is ridiculous, the Hooper decision was very tight whilst the penalty was clearly not a correct call

 

Yeh, it's pathetic.
It's football - some decisions go your way, some don't. It happens everywhere.
Can't be bothered with anyone going against Celtic being called a Hun either.

WAH!

Get over it, play better!

 

Well it was proven last year about the cheating so,why not,i agree it stinks big time behind the closed doors of SFA.

I used to be skeptical about it,but the dougiegate incident opened my eyes big time.There are games were celtic are * and deserve * all but,the refs are * dodgy BIG TIME.

Last years hamilton game was shocking,the hearts away game with red cards,Gollum with his back to a so called penalty,fortunes chopped of goal....could go on for hours.

We do sometimes get a little luck...But tbh ....weigh that * up ....we deffo get *

 

I don't neccesarily think it was a penalty but * happens its football.

As ive said before i've missed only about 2 or 3 games with Celtic this year and can honestly say we get more wrong decisions for us than against us. That doesn't get spoke about though as it doesn't suit the agenda of most.

I'm more concerned about todays lacklustre performance and the team's definciences for next seasons European campaign than moaning about referees to be honest.

 

That is not true is it now?We might get away with the odd offside when we're 3-0 up against Hibs or the likes,but it's the big game changing decisions we're talking about here.

 

yes, Jock Stein said to beat them just go out and score more goals, which is what we are not doing end of

 

The general thought is that the decisions go against us to a ridiculous extent in the big games. I've never known anyone who will claim all teams dont get good and bad calls in games. However, perhaps you would like to point out the calls that even themselves up in where we are concerned in the bigger games. In the last 3 alone we have seen (at Ibrox) a dodgy sending off and an offside goal against us. In the LC final we were denied a clear penalty and our player was booked for diving. Thats another two as the referee has to be sure of a call and today we seen numerous ones go against us. A farcical penalty, a clear red card (which was only given as a yellow) not given and then a deliberate handball by the same player go unpunished. We got (if you can even call it) a goal which some say is offside.

The tackle by Black in particular is the one we should be questioning as much as the referee seen it and chose not to apply the correct ruling. As he did with the handball and for him to be 100% sure it was a penalty is nonsense. How many similar ones like that do you remember us getting?

 

Decisions like the penalty today are hard to swallow. The reason it's labelled as a conspiracy when they go against us and not the huns is generally because we get so many big decisions against us, in big games. The penalty today. The red cards at Ibrox. The 'dive' in the LC final. Last season was worse, we had the penalty in the first huns game, Ledley's red card and 2 blatant penalties denied against Hearts, the many decisions against Hamilton, the penalty we weren't given in the last minute against Inverness. The fact is, there have been cases where the SFA have been PROVEN to be against us. The Farry/Cadete affair. McDonald/Craven at Tannadice. You could also point to Diouf and Bougherra walking away scott free after the Scottish Cup match last season, or Lenny getting a 6 game touchline ban for a first offence. These are not reasonable actions. Another thing I'd like to know is why the ref said he gave the decision against Wanyama. Makes it even more bizarre for me, he clearly knows that he can't give it against Ledley, so why against Wanyama?