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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Zander, Jul 25, 2011.

Discuss Ki in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. Breenzo

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    Brown over Ki, every day, any day.
     
  2. BigWilly.

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    playing rangers fits his style, doesnt mean he is a better player than Ki, the performances of the 2 this season proves me right

    you couldnt be more wrong, you obviously dont watch much football and havent played it either brown isnt fit to lace ki's boots, ki's passing and chance creation are one of the best in the team, and your excuse that we are a worse team with him is a tired and bullshit complaint with nothing to back it up, if we just go by the last month we palyed better when he was in the team, or when he came on
     
  3. bgmick Gold Member

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    The argument I always see on the subject of KI is that if we get an offer of say £4m we should take it and get rid.So he cant be a bad player if someone were to bid £4m for him IMO.
     
  4. holy pope

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    I would play ki before Brown . Brings more goals and assists to the side .

    Scott Brown is not Productive enough as a winger.
     
  5. cammy07

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    I think ki is now surplus to requirements, he would be 5th choice centre midfielder now, give me broony over ki everyday of the week. Don't get me wrong he is a good player, but he is also worth a bit of cash, it would be stupid to let him sit on the bench and just let his contract run out. I think we could get £5m for him this summer, an offer which we surely wouldn't refuse.
     
  6. doctor venglos

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    That is crazy talk. We lost Two Cups this last month with Ki in the team. We skelp Rangers with Brown in and Ki out on his *, coincidence I think not, the stats don't lie, and the stats categorically say we lose more games with Ki in the side.The only thing I could agree with you is that Brown would probably be more suited to Ranger's style of play, but thank * we got him instead of Rangers.

    The stats are very damning against Ki

    The one thing about Ki's tackling is it is very rash and dangerous, and likely to get him sent off or maim the other player.
     
  7. TAB

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    He won't always start because the midfield is where we have the most quality but Ki's still a good option to have. Chips in with assists and goals. He's not a shy tackler, that is a myth IMO. The one thing he does need to work on is tracking his man better though.

    I still think he'll become a good player, maybe not here.
     
  8. Mr. Slippyfist

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    :97:

    So....the moment where he robbed their player and set up the 3rd goal wasn't effective?
     
  9. mike91

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    You are literally the only person I have seen suggest that Ki has been better than Brown this season, the general opinion seems to be that Brown has been much better this year.
     
  10. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I genuinely, genuinely cannot fathom out how people are raving about him this season.

    He has had a few good games, but that's about it - has flattered to deceive in most of his appearances imo.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    Not a huge Ki fan tbh, not when we have Brown, Kayal, Ledley and Wanyama in midfield anyways...


    Wouldn't be too disappointed if he wasn't around last season, his work rate is excellent though.
     
  12. Zander Gold Member Gold Member

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    i didnt say that?

    you made out in that quote, he was effective because he was getting stuck in, which isnt at all the reason he was so effective in the game...he was effective at the 3rd goal, but that doesnt mean thats why his performance as a whole was effective
     
  13. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I never said his whole game yesterday was about getting stuck in - the grafting he did when not attacking was certainly effective for the team - as shown by the 3rd goal.

    He chased and chased yesterday when he did not have possession, and made tackles when required - all this outwith his attacking freedom, something which Ki does not do enough of.
     
  14. BigWilly.

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    yet again you are wrong, you are blaming ki for us losing 2 cups, 1 in which he came on and turned us around to give us a chance after we were losing and the other in which he was one of the best players, he was also in the team that won the league, the 6-0 game against kilmarnock he was immense behind hooper, but no you will continue to blame ki for our losses yet the captain was not responsible at all, as for your precious stats they are pretty tainted because the games we lost are early in the season, in which ki was not the worst player, mulgrew also palyed in those games, hooper played in those games, they either let in goals or didnt score him but no it was kis fault, he is just a scapegoat for you

    brown generally gets cut alot of slack because he gets stuck into players, is our captain and everyone remembers him vs diouf, so they excuse his slack play and horrible passing and ki is a nice little scapegoat now that sammy is playing well.
     
  15. BigWilly.

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    ki is not a defensive player, he doesnt play as a defensive player for korea and never played as a defensive player before coming here, watch the 6-0 game against kilmarnock when we won the leauge, lennon played him behind hooper and he was immense, thats where he is most effective outwith a 5 man midfield where he can sit back and pick out passes
     
  16. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Why is it when someone points out Ki's faults, all you see in here is "scapegoat" :56::56::56:
     
  17. Mr. Slippyfist

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    I know he's not a defensive player - that much is blatantly obvious :50:

    Unfortunately, if you are going to be playing in a position such as that infront of the defenders, there are certain defensive qualities that must be shown - that's just basic football.

    I agree he would probably be better as the most advanced player in a five man midfield - but there are a few games that I have seen him in this position, yet I personally fail to see what he brings to the team except a few good passes here and there.
     
  18. format

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    He's one of our top scorers from midfield and has one of the highest assist rates in the team.
     
  19. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Then why is he not first-pick on the teamsheet every week?
     
  20. BigWilly.

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    offensive minded players arent supposed to defend, commons is a horrible tackler too but he is an offensive player as is ki

    add on to the fact that he creates more chances on average than any other player on the team