The WWE / TNA Wrestling Thread

come to think of it i think the reason ziggler didn't cash in as i don't think the wwe wanted to * big show over with to short title runs

 

I liked it to. Tied it in well with the ref that Heyman tried to have fired a few weeks back.

 

Watched some of it back, is it just me that thought that crowd was * poor?

But fair enough, what was there to get really excited about, apart from the "oh they're climbing the cage". No wonder it wasn't on Box Office over here, the only bit in the whole PPV that was slightly shocking or "I did not think that was going to happen" was Show winning the World Title, which thank * he has.

They really need to either bolster their rosters, or lay off the PPVs. Cut it down to around eight or something. But even doing that I don't expect better PPVs, TNA are pulling off having twelve PPVs a year, but WWE are really struggling. They have barely any guys who can have a good match with absolutely anyone, Punk can, but he is the wimpy heel who runs from fights, Bryan can, but he is in a tag team(basically the only entertaining thing in WWE), Ziggler can, but lately he has been losing to nearly anyone, then all the other good "wrestlers" aren't even close to being near any main event.

With every PPV that passes, I get less and less interested/more annoyed in how bad the WWE is getting, they really are relying on The Rock, Lesnar, Promos involving SCSA just to keep people interested, which is a kick in the balls to the current talent, basically telling them that the upper management has no faith in them to get attention on shows or PPVs. The only reason I watch right now, are due to mostly the guys that can actually wrestle and the majority done the indies.

I would rather see Punk vs Ziggler or Bryan or Cesaro or Sandow, or Rhodes for the WWE title at Wrestlemania than see The Rock come back. *, if I knew the main event was going to be between any of they five, that alone would make me buy the PPV. I couldn't care about Cena vs The Rock 2, not just because I was always a Stone Cold guy, but down to the fact, they no longer deserve the spotlight. Ziggler should be main eventing PPVs, Rhodes has been one of the best talents for Months, Bryan has for over a year, Cesaro and Sandow have both been unbelievable since joining WWE, so why not give them some Main event time, the same thing that TNA done with Austin Aries, he's an amazing wrestler, he had the X Division title, he could talk, so they gave him main event time with Bobby Roode, and he went over with the fans in an instant.

What have the WWE got to lose, I personally think over time If they continue to push Cena, Sheamus, Orton and Del Rio, they will lose a lot more fans over that than they will if they push Punk, Bryan, Ziggler, Sandow, Rhodes, even Tyson Kidd and Michael McGillicutty, they two deserve so much more from the WWE than they are getting, it truly does * me off, I just wish TNA has the money and the production value to compete with Vince and his backstaff, they really do need a kick up the *.

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Couldn't agree more

We want to see good wrestlers have good wrestling matches. The future of the company has to be pushed now. Not some semi-retired now movie star come back now and again to steal the spotlight and take a hard working wrestlers position away.

 

What was the finish? What did the ref do? I fell asleep during Rey & Cara vs PTP

 

Cracked Ryback in the goolies and done a quick pin.

 

Thank * they only had one Cell match, anymore it would have been overkill.

But I see where you're coming from, who names a pay-per-view "Royal Rumble" and then only have one Royal Rumble match right?

How is it stupid that Ziggler never cashed in? Do you really think he would just give it away like that "I'm gonna cash in at HIAC", they'll wait until we least expect it. (But to be honest, I can see it happening tonight on Raw).

In my opinion they should have finished the match even earlier, Ryback isn't ready for a full on 20/30 minute main-event match.

Also the referee that screwed him was Brad Maddox, the same guy that had issues with Punk/Heyman before so it all links together.

I think I'm one of the few people that actually enjoyed the finish last night :smiley-laughing002: and I'm looking forward to see what they do tonight on Raw

 

It is a stupid name for a PPV. At Elimination Chamber another stupid gimmick PPV, there is two Elimination Chamber matches, at Money in the Bank, there are two money in the bank matches, so I think running up to it, it would of made more sense to have both the WWE title, and the World Title to be decided in a * in a Cell match.

Ziggler not cashing in is only stupid as he is the best thing on Smackdown, that in itself makes it stupid, I was just glad the titles off Sheamus.

The Main event was only around 11 minutes, that's including all the * at the start and the end, so your saying you would rather see a 5 minute main event?

 

I agree it's a stupid name for a PPV, maybe I shouldn't have made that comparison to the Rumble. I dislike all the gimmick PPV's in general however I still think only having one Cell match last night was a good thing.

Also I think the match was at least 10-15 minutes, without the stuff like the entrances at the start and Ryback beating everyone up at the end. Maybe it's just me disliking Ryback's in ring ability but I really found it boring and it dragged in my opinion

 

Decent PPV i thought, didnt mind the ending either. Actually thought Big Show v Sheamus was the best fight of the night, dont like face sheamus but i always enjoy his matches even though theyre usually squash matches. Im guessing a triple threat between cena, punk and ryback at SS.

 

Raw on at 12 remember

 

Awful match, but holy *...

 

I honestly don't know why half of you continue to watch WWe. After every PPV/Raw there's always the "that was *" messages. Fair enough, have your opinion, but I just don't see why you would continue to watch it if you think it's * week in week out.

I actually thought that HiAC was alright. Match of the night for me was Sheamus/Show. Pretty glad that Show is getting his last big run. And, it's also nice to see a new champ after 6 months of that boring pale idiot!

Ending of the HiAC, I thought was great. I don't know why you guys are so * at it. I bet no-one could've predicted that. Fair does, stupid booking putting Ryback in a title match this early, especially with Punk's run lasting so long. But, to be fair, Ryback will still keep his monster credibility. Punk still keeps the strap.

Overall I'll give the PPV a 6/10. Not the best, but by far not as bad as what people are making it out to be.

 

Agree with almost everything, good post However I don't mind Sheamus, just don't like the way WWE are booking him.

 

I watch because I love wrestling and hope that one week its going to start getting better.

 

I hope when Triple H takes over he makes some changes. It doesn't even need to be the PG rating, keep it PG if they want, they just need a whole new creative team in my opinion.

I mean, in 2008-2009, WWE was already PG, however I seemed to remember quite a bit of violence still here and there. Look at the Edge vs. Cena Backlash 2009 match for example, it just seemed more violent than some of the * in a Cell matches and Elimination Chamber matches that you would get today.

Also, even though in 2008 and 2009 the product was terrible, I don't ever remember myself saying "this is so * I hope Vince steps down soon". Now I've got to be honest I hope for the sake of his company Vince steps down sooner rather than later. It's him that is keeping this terrible creative team in a position to ruin the WWE.

Also Linda McMahon's campaign probably has a little something to do with it as well.

 

I know no one gives 2 * about referees but I cant remember the last time I seen Mike Chioda on my telly

 

Spanish announce table is out, someone is getting put through a table tonight

 

FOLEY!

 

* I hope this doesn't end in a Punk v Foley feud.