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Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ILoveTheCeltic, Feb 19, 2012.

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  1. Glasgow_Bhoy88

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    Going by FIFA Guidetti would get the assist unless he scored the penalty himself. As would Virgil.
     
    Glasgow_Bhoy88, Feb 23, 2015
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  2. port boy

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    So if a guy goes into a tackle and the ball squirts out to a team mate, who scores, is that an assist? Wouldn't have scored if he hadn't tackled the guy.
     
    port boy, Feb 23, 2015
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  3. Liam Scales

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    If the keeper never put it straight to Johansen the goal wouldn't have happened, the keeper assisted the goal:50:
     
    Liam Scales, Feb 23, 2015
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  4. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Aye, he set it up.
     
    Officer Doofy, Feb 23, 2015
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  5. Liam Scales

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    What if you're taking a man on, th defenders stabs the ball into the path of a striker who puts it away? Goal wouldn't have happened without taking the man on but I wouldn't say it was an assist.
     
    Liam Scales, Feb 23, 2015
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  6. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    All very dependent on the tackle. If it was a coming together and the ball just squirms out then yes. If the defenders makes a clean slide tackle or standing tackle then I'd say no.

    An assist is hard to define at times, and really is an overrated statistic.
     
    Officer Doofy, Feb 23, 2015
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  7. ILoveTheCeltic

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    To clear it up I don't include penaltys/freekicks won, or keeper saves that are tapped in and only if a pass/cross comes off an opponent but was meant/going in the direction of the person who scored - so not if for example Izaguirre cosses and it deflects off a defender goes the opposite way and Stokes knocks it in, only if Izzy cuts it back and it scrapes off a defender on the way to the player.

    I think some stats websites keep stats very badly, like transfermarkt. If you look through for example Ronaldo's assists this season on their website he has about 6 assists for winning and scoring his own penalties - assists to himself :56: same with Guidetti he has 3 assists for winning and scoring penalties for us. I could see the point of including a penalty won if someone else took it but even then I dont think thats really an assist as the person doing the fouling is the one whos conceded a penalty. Penalties won should really be included on their own as a stat.
     
    ILoveTheCeltic, Feb 23, 2015
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    Wow, with your previous comment I thought you were joking. My mistake.
     
    port boy, Feb 23, 2015
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    Disagree with the Penalty bit, think its good to count it as a assist.
     
    CelticKurd, Feb 23, 2015
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    I'd agree that an assist can be an overrated statistic.

    A player having 10 assists, going by what they class as an assist could really be * all.
     
    PaddyBhoy, Feb 23, 2015
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  11. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Aye, like Guidetti, some sources will say he has 9 assists but 3 are penalties he won and scored himself and he got 2 assists against St Mirren I think it was where the ball only hit off him and fell to players who scored.

    Its better to know chances created, which are balls that went to someone with a shooting chance but nobody publishes or possibly even counts them for the SPL.
     
    ILoveTheCeltic, Feb 23, 2015
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  12. PaddyBhoy

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    To be honest ILTC I'm surprised you're no counting them.

    You're slacking!
     
    PaddyBhoy, Feb 23, 2015
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    Should be in a column of its own, penalties won.
     
    Liam Scales, Feb 23, 2015
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    Aye that'll seperate the diving * from the rest! :56:
     
    PaddyBhoy, Feb 23, 2015
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    Or the Chris Sutton tactic of waiting for a tackle and throwing yourself infront of it while elbowing them in the chest :56:
     
    Liam Scales, Feb 23, 2015
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    Liam Scales, Feb 25, 2015
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    ILoveTheCeltic, Mar 2, 2015
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    Matthews season is shaping up well.
     
    Liam Scales, Mar 2, 2015
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    Great to see Stefan scoring goals. His game has come on big time. I would like to see him take on more from distance, we have seen him do it before too. If he can add this as a regular dimension to his game, then he will become our best player
     
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