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The Transfers/Transfer Rumours Thread

Discussion in 'World Football' started by holy pope, Dec 19, 2011.

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  1. 31B404 Gold Member Gold Member

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  2. Clint Eastwood The Good Bad and Ugly of TC

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    Alexis Sanchez is far better than the limited role Barcelona are using him in. He would be awesome in the premier league. As for Suarez, Barcelona wanting him doesn't come as a surprise really. They want to move away from tika taka and get back to more all action total football they were playing under Cryuff and Raikjaard.
     
  3. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Name a better out and out striker in World football?

    Barcelona don't have a striker (they got shot of Villa a season too early IMO but that's another debate) and Suarez is one of the best, if not the best.

    The debate then is really whether or not they want to take on the baggage that comes with him but in terms of removing that from the equation and asking if he would be a good signing then he 100% would be.
     
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    Doesn't matter if he isn't an official "out and out" striker. He blows everyone else out of the water.

    Fine back up with Pedro, Neymar, Sánchez and a few others. They are fine up front. Playing Mascherano as a centre-back, now that is a problem.
     
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    Barca could do with someone who leads the line more and forces defences back though. Neymar, Pedro and Sanchez are all wider forwards who like to get on the ball and run and Messi also likes to play deeper.

    They could do with someone like Suarez to come in and play more central on the line of the defence pushing them back and making them think with clever movement like Villa used to do, even when he played wide or Eto'o before him. Would create more space for Messi to dribble in and shoot from around the box like he used to do a lot 2/3/4 years ago or he has done for Argentina with his first 2 goals at the WC by having someone infront of him pulling defenders back out his way and making them worry he's going to pass it through to them(Higuain) at Barca he doesnt have anybody doing that and most of his goals last season came from tap-ins freekicks and set peices because teams could block him running through in large numbers as no-one was occupying them in the middle.

    Would be great to see a team like

    Busquets Rakitic
    Sanchez Messi Neymar
    Suarez
     
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  6. Dáibhí

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    They could do even more with a couple of quality defenders though, couldn't they?
     
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    Im not sure, probably 50/50. Their main problem the last two seasons has been breaking teams down, a lot of it comes down to them not having a natural striker playing the striker role.

    They keep the ball for fun usually so the addition of Suarez would make the opposition * it more and easier for Barca to open teams up so in a way signing him would also improve the defence as teams would be more likely to sit back more.

    What defenders are they going to get too? id probably say the two ideal defenders for them would be Thiago Silva and David Luiz, quick defenders who can cope better when being ran at on the counter but they're not going to get them. Still need defenders though but there's barely any about.

    If I was their manager would sign Hummels, Vermaelen, Matuidi and Suarez. Would also sign Aurier the Ivory Coast right-back if I could although seen Arsenal may already have signed him.

    Giving them

    Ter Stegen
    Alves Pique Hummels Alba
    Busquets Rakitic
    Sanchez Messi Neymar
    Suarez

    Bravo
    Montoya Bartra Vermaelen Adriano
    Mascherano
    S.Roberto Matuidi
    Deulofeu Pedro Iniesta

    Id move on Xavi, Song, Tello, Afellay, Cuenca and Bojan. Xavi id rather keep but id let him move on wouldnt be that bothered about it since they need more legs in midfield so he'd barely play.

    Vermaelen would just be back-up, not that important a player but better to have a natural decent centre-back than Mascherano. Would necessarily need to be him any decent defender could be Agger, Caceres, Vertonghen.
     
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    Liverpool want Sanchez included in any deal that takes Suarez to Barca.
     
  9. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    If he blows everyone else out the water then why did Barca win the square root of * all last season?

    No 1 player makes any team and Barca lack a focal point striker. For all everyone bangs on about their lack of defensive options, myself included, with Suarez in that side last season they would have had a MUCH better chance of beating Atletico in the Champions League and in the Camp Nou and they could have ended up with a famous double rather than a failed manager and a huge rebuilding process.

    Neymar and Sanchez are hampered by being team mates with the greatest player in the World not enhanced by it. They play wherever the main man isn't, proven by the fact Neymar has carried Brazil and Sanchez was one of the players of the tournament until Chile were knocked out. Barcelona were at their best in recent seasons when Villa was at his and that isn't a coincidence.
     
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    Aye, the two main players they havent replaced are Villa and Keita. They've needed a centre half for years but can get bye ok aslong as they have the legs in midfield and a striker to help them play better.

    Suarez and Matuidi would be ideal players.

    In bigger games a few year ago they could play Keita in midfield and Iniesta wide up front but in the last 2 seasons they've ususally played Iniesta in midfield and then they were much less secure. The lack of a real striker has made it more difficult for them to attack overall.
     
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    Oh, come on. A couple of decent defenders have been top of the priority list for Barcelona for a few years now. That surely cannot be argued with?
     
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    They spent 25 million on Chygrinsky, you'll probably find they've been stung by that.

    They do need to look at the defence though but they're aware of it, they've already signed 2 quality goalkeepers.
     
  13. Dáibhí

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    That was almost five years ago. You can't spend €25 million on a foreign player and then still be worried about doing the same five years later.

    Besides, they got €15 million back for him, so it wasn't that much of a loss.
     
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    Because their defence is terrible.

    Sabella showed how to play Messi and Argentina show that when you have a player like Messi you do everything to set the team for him. You have Messi just behind a player. Having a guy in front of him stretching the opposing defence in World Cup qualifying and opened up space for Messi to do his thing. They already have the players to perform this role (I see no reason why Pedro or Sánchez can't fulfil this role) and clearly don't need to spend £30 million+ on Suárez. A guy I doubt is willing to just do Messi's dirty work.

    And of course Neymar won't play where Messi plays. He is a left-winger after all. I don't think he is hampered by playing with Messi. He is a world class superstar in his own right. He is also a young man how has moved to another continent. Of course he is going to have a few teething problems in his first season. You can't read into a début season as much as people have been doing with Neymar.

    What Barça need is defenders. Playing Mascherano at the back is madness and the rest of this young lot coming through need experience through out to help them. Even if they did buy Suárez you can't build success with a back line of Piqué.
     
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    Massive overpayment for a guy in the last year of his contract.


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  17. Dáibhí

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    It isn't really though, is it? Considering the country he's moving around in. The English game sets its own transfer values independent of what everyone else does.
     
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    Well aye. I just meant in general. Anywhere else that would about double what you would give.

    The English game is a different beast altogether.
     
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    For now. The * will fall clean out of it eventually.
     
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    A would imagine Wenger is easily way more respected in world football than Rogers.