Why you shouldn't jump the fare

Your whole post weather you did it intentionally or not was absolving the boy of any blame whatsoever and criticising everyone else involved in the situation, Add to that your over-reaction to jokes made on the forum, It seemed a little strange.

I agree the conductor went about things the wrong way but he obviously isn't very well trained in conflict management, (Witch they really should be) That's the reason the big man has stepped in, because he's seen the elderly conductor get the pish taken out him. The big man then went completely over the top and should rightly be charged with assault. Can't even be arsed explaining the situation in full I did that in an earlier post.

 

That was supposed to say others may give their own son a clout then each to their own.

 

Thanks mate, I'm glad you and other people were talking in jest about doing such stuff to your own kids but as I said I was only reacting to what I read initially..glad to hear your sons doing well for himself and much respect towards him

 

I think the whole situation has been blown out of proportion. The fat guy's hardly Batman, is he?

 

I am struggling to see your argument for the conductor not doing his job... someone hasn't paid and his job is to make check everyone has. he hasn't and has been asked to leave.

As for the 'big man' man handling him, iv seen worse than that in an under 11 penalty box!

Guy deserved it.

 

If someone did that to my son for the disgusting crime of skipping the train I wouldn't be dolling out extra punishment to my kid, I would be hunting that fat * vigilante down and seeing how he gets on with someone his own size.

The kid was in the wrong for not paying the fare but at no point should anyone be taking the law into their own hands unless absolutely necessary.

And this is coming from someone who chased a junkie off the bus once, but he was threatening the driver and some elderly passengers with violence so that's a different situation imo.

 

I'd have dragged the smart * * out by the scruff of the neck and make him apologize to the other passengers as he passes them. PC Britain has gone mad.

 

ffs for the sake of a couple of quid couldnt he just let him away with it i know the wee lad didnt help himself with swearing n that & could have explained himself better, but he didnt deserve to be dragged off like that by the big fella tbh i couldnt give a * if someone never paid & i did ive got more things to worry about than a wee fare dodger....i used to do myself lol

 

Haha, he got what he deserved.

 

The 'bigman' guy acts in a pretty uncalled way to be honest. Bit of a *.

 

1)The conductor didn't have a clue what to say or do when confronted with a stroppy teen. Surely they get training for that sort of thing.

2) he asked a passenger to throw someone off the train.

3) He got off at the station with the wee ned allowing all 100 of the other passengers on the train to get off without paying their tickets. All be it saving them from the same treatment by the "big man"

 

I'm wondering if all those critising the big fella for his action would feel the same if the conductor had been their own father or grandfather on the receiving end of the wee clowns abuse?

 

Nothing more than assault. Sure, the young lad was being difficult but the conductor was *' useless. If he had any common sense then he'd have phoned the traffic police to await the next stop and remove the man. What this 'hero' done was nothing short of assault - he flung a man off of a train. Dunno about yous, but throwing someone of a train sounds incredibly dangerous if you ask me, all for the abhorrent crime of refusing to pay a fare having been out celebrating his exams finishing with mates. Complete * and certainly won't be earning any plaudits from me and most sane individuals.

 

What abuse? The lad said "*(ing)" about 3 times.

He looked more embarrassed than anything and he misplaced his embarrassment for defiance to try and save face.

That is never grounds for someone twice the size of you and take the law into their own hands and throw you off a train, then again when the guy is just trying to recover his property.

 

You should see the state of him by the way. Cuts/scabs and probably scars over his face because of that fat *.
He doesn't deserve that. The conductor either needs retrained or sacked. And the * who took the law into his own hands needs dealt with, and the police are looking into it.
Sam will probably face some charge, but nothing he won't be able to cover. He's not the jakey wee * some people seem to be making out.

End of the day, the conductors handled it wrongly, Sam's handled it wrongly, and the fat * deserves to be dealt with as well.

 

Now it seems a spokesperson of Scotrail is a bit confused as to why their empolyee didnt follow the normal proceedure which is :

(a) Take his name, address, contact number to be later billed by Scotrail with an additional fixed penalty.
(b) Contact British Transport Police and have the lad removed at the next station.

The rules are in place so that there isnt any delays with train schedules.

But no, It was the conductors choice to hold up the train, going against everything his employers train him to do, which ultimately ended up with a guy looking like this...



Yes the lad was being cheeky but if the conductor followed Scotrails rules, a guy wouldnt have a sore face and another guy wouldnt be in hiding for commiting assault.

On another note..I just noticed the woman sitting with all the weans having a fly slap at the boy as he was being forced down the aisle! :icon_eek:

 

Good post mate, cheers for that.

Many people who act the * in life deserve to be pulled up/dealt with, I have done this a couple of times when I thought it was merited.

That young lad did not deserve what happened to him, he was an idiot for not getting off the train but he didn't deserve that.



Unless he was a hun, then he got off lightly imo :icon_mrgreen:

 

I worry that if this goes unchallenged it will set a dangerous precedent. Think the "big man" was right in this instance though.

 

I'm pretty sure the young kids on the train would have been more affected by seeing physical violence rather than a few swear words.

I was on my way back from work this evening, and my train was cancelled and I had to wait an hour and a half on alternative transport being organised by Scotrail. Does that give me the right to go and seek a Scotrail employee out, crack his jaw and give them a thumping?

If the "big guy" had shown restraint then he wouldn't have bothered getting off his fat * and sticking his nose into something that had absolutely * all to do with him.

 

What 'precedent' will be set?