Sion appeal

See when Sion applied to be a professional football club to play in FIFA and UEFA competitions, they agreed to their rules/T&Cs. Break them and you'll be punished.

Simples.

 

Chances: I'm really not sure. The whole thing is a * mess. If the two courts decide against us, the chances are equal to zero. If they grant superprovisional measures, which is not really unlikely, then UEFA really are in big trouble. They would have to decide then: Should we turn up the whole competition again or should we ignore the legal consequences, which could be disastrous to them. I'd still say that Celtic will play in Madrid in one week's time (90% or so), but if I were you, I would't book my flight yet.

From an "ethical" point of view:
Constantin is a madman and the club already suffered a lot under his presidency. On the other hand, he is the only one willing to keep the club alive (in and around Sion, the economy is not really strong). That's why we just have no alternative to him, unfortunately. He made a big mistake by signing unnecessarily that egyptian goalkeeper, who wasn't even good. He is also too stubborn to just say "let go". Instead he thinks he is in the right (maybe he is, maybe not) and still signs players. But... although I am angry at him, I still think that Sion should push this thing through now. UEFA and FIFA, Platini and Blatter, are such a bunch of corrupts who think that they are above the law and can do whatever they want. They acted like clowns in this whole affair, made so many contradictory declarations. I already listed some of the points.
- They license the players for the two games against Celtic
- They don't react to the protest after the first game
- They ignore a ruling from a Swiss court (even UBS can't ignore them, so why should UEFA)
- They intervene in a pending case
- The president (Platini) of an "undependant" committee, which is due to decide on the case, makes comments on the case in advance.
- and so on and so forth

In the end, it doesn't even matter if Sion were right or not with the claim that they served their transfer ban (they say that they split it up in several parts as AS Rome once did). But what UEFA do is just not right, and they finally deserve for once to be punished by real justice. That's why I think that it is ok what Constantin and his eight lawyers are doing at the moment even though I'm really not a fan of him and his methods usually.

I might add that Celtic and its supporters just have bad luck (somehow) to fall on a story like that and be squashed between UEFA and Sion.

 

The main problem about the affair is that Sepp Blatter and Christian Constantin are 100% alike. They're both not willing to find a compromise, it's not in their nature. They're both power-obsessed dictators who don't accept to be overruled by anybody else, even to the point where they just ignore the law.

Still, friday's decision was a joke. Just like anything UEFA did in this case. Absolute amateurs, totally biased judges who just do (and write) what UEFA/FIFA dictated. This will get back at them. This whole saga couldn't have turned out better for Constantin. His arguments were never better founded than now. Before UEFA took action, he was isolated. Not anymore.

They better hope the Swiss civil courts decide against Sion. If not, UEFA and FIFA are in serious trouble. If they just ignore potential superprovisional measures taken by the Swiss judges, they are liable to prosecution. At this moment, their whole system of jurisdiction will be discussed, which is exactly what they wanted to prevent from the beginning.

If Celtic won, there wouldn't be a problem. Which is exactly what UEFA hoped for. They took a high risk by qualifying the Sion players first and not reacting to Celtic's protest after the first leg at Celtic Park. Now they contradict their own decision by punishing Sion for fielding the players...I seriously don't get it what UEFA expected Constantin to do after friday's decision.

 

if it was celtic who played players that should never o been on the pitch we would be calling for lennon's head for playing them. i could see fifa and uefa banning sion for good from all compatitions so get that up ya's you cheating moaning wee * :bbpd:

 

http://www.celticfc.net/

does that not state sions appeal is crap ie not playing in europe this season,we areaty:

just look at the packages sion fans,dooh so deal with it fc sion,ffs the chairman of sion said hes still taking his squad to madrid next week,what a dafty,unreal anyway..

SION OUT CELTIC IN!!

 

* sake turn up slagging these swiss guys off

none of them are bagging or annoying us theyre just thinking of their own team

slagging them off and calling them moany * doesnt make us good happy celtic supporters

get a grip of yerself ffs

one of our mods here is swiss ffs and there are lots of other foreeign supporters on this website they never got attracted to us bu us slagging them off

grow up

 

I'm very sorry if I offened any Swiss peps on Here,I was just having some good old Banter thats all.

anyway not another word about this silly appeal from me

not slagging mate,just abit a good old banter thats all,nothing wrong way banter surely,anyway i'll stop it now if thats ok also i'm probably older than you pal,anyway thats another matter sorry again mikey!

uefa do the right thing please!

booked mine:bbpd: already mate as thats it in way uefa in my opinion even though we might get hammered in madrid but thats life but we'll field legal players,we have too and celtic will always do

 

What I can say from my experience in this forum so far is that my English language vocabulary has been quite enlarged. Above all by words such as ffs, * and *.:icon_mrgreen: I was already familiar with the word "cheats" though. And from an extra-linguistic point of view, I heard a lot about a certain "Mad Vlad". Seems like an interesting person.

 

Haha! You speak better English than many on this forum mate! I have never regarded your team as cheats, you did break the rules but at the end of the day, you beat us with the same team you use in your own league. Which is fair and square in my opinion. Some Celtic fans just get carried away with the phrase 'cheating *' and such, just because we really want to be in Europe. Like any club! I can only imagine how hard it must be to qualify then be told you are getting put out of the very same tournament without playing another game. If Celtic do go through, I regard ourselves as very lucky and will count my blessings. However, if Sion does somehow win their appeal, I won't be saying a word of complaint.

 

If you only knew.....Mad Vlad could be a thread unto himself and football need not be mentioned once! Good luck to the rest of your season!

 

:icon_mrgreen: Lets say Mr Constantin and mad Vlad would be good friends

 

The appeal is something every fan would want their club to chase up, in reality you re never going to win that appeal. Imagine how weak uefa would look if they let any team go back on their decision. And with no offence intended sions way, its not like they have massive eurpoean sway to get european sympathy vote. People across europe will probably thinking who is this sion team winging about getting punished for breaking a well known rule. You dont field in eligible players, uefa handed out the punishment in accordance to the crime.

 

Right can somebody tell what the * is going on here, if celtic are for selling tickets for the 3 europa league games and uefa have said they have been reinstated then why are sion saying they will be playing against althetico next week and are going to win their appeal?

 

Am I right in understanding that the Sion appeal is based on a "right to work" argument? ie, the Sion players being excluded from the games is against EU worker's rights? If so, there's no way that UEFA can back down on this because it sets a precedent that EU workers guidelines over-ride any UEFA by-laws which would rule the transfer window, home-nation requirements, etc illegal.
I understand that the Sion fans would insist on their team appealing this decision but if this is the basis for the appeal then I can see it standing.

 

I think celtic have been told to make there tickets available to there fans . Yesterday i phoned the ticket office and the lass did not have a clue to when they would be available. Sion are clutching at straws, and there mad chairman is just Pi***ed right off

 

was this aimed at my post m8 because if it is my post is aimed at fc sion and not there supporters as it was not the supporters that picked the team and it's not the supporters that are going through the courts to get bk in the tournament

 

there's banter and then there's coming onto a forum to ridicule someone who came in peace and offered some explanation of the Sion opinion on things........ the grow up comment was well justified.

 

Teams have won plenty of appeals against UEFA before in the past. Ac Milan did the year they put out Celtic in extra time with that Kaka goal did they not?

And just because Celtic are advertising tickets means * all. They could easily make a ticket void once you have bought it, it's covered in the terms and conditions. You will probably get your money back though. I'm not holding my breath on this one, Sion look like they have a pretty strong appeal especially since they are dragging EU work rights into it as well.

 

The EU work rights makes me think it won't succeed. It would set a precedent against the whole of European football regarding player registration. That would be applicable to transfer windows, loan signings, number of clubs in a season. It would be endless.

 

No, you are wrong. Sion's claims have nothing to do with "work right" or something like that.