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"Offensive chanting"

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Rude Bhoy, Jul 26, 2011.

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  1. Mystic Penguin

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    Very true.
     
    Mystic Penguin, Jul 28, 2011
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  2. PaddyBhoy

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    Only time 50k sing is when we were 3-0 up v der hun.

    If you go to away games you will see the whole stand sings the rebs
     
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  3. Rude Bhoy

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    Rude Bhoy, Jul 28, 2011
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  4. bgmick Gold Member

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    And youre continued posts are not designed to brainwash or browbeat people into agreeing with your views?
     
    bgmick, Jul 28, 2011
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  5. Mystic Penguin

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    Your comparing a forum member's posts with the media? :56::56::56:
     
    Mystic Penguin, Jul 28, 2011
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    Its got nothing to do with the media either, its alot to do with age and people being their with their familes, load of old guys sit round about me they probaly love the rebs but do you expect them to stand up and belt out the roll of honour or merry ploughboy nah i dont same goes for people there with the waynes etc

    Thats why away games are different in some cases
     
    odonno, Jul 28, 2011
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  7. Rude Bhoy

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  8. PaddyBhoy

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    Type in roll of honour at ibrox, and click the first video.

    Then tell me that's the minority singing
     
    PaddyBhoy, Jul 28, 2011
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    I'm fed up :32:thank you for the reasoned debate lads:ynwacelti
     
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    I don't think the media has played a part in the majority of peoples opinions about these chants. It certainly hasn't for me.
    Time has simply moved on and unfortunatly too many peoples lives have been effected by the modern IRA.

    I still fail to see where this has a place in football.
     
    muffitO'tea, Jul 28, 2011
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    They had their place at cp be long before we were born and are still belted out today:50: and hopefully long after we're gone
     
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  12. muffitO'tea

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    That could be said about a lot of things in this world...
     
    muffitO'tea, Jul 28, 2011
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    So those of Irish descent in Scotland arent allowed there opinion on Irelands troubles?
    Believe me the Celtic support are more politically aware than you obviously think!
    Your in Dublin mate its not as if your slap bang in the middle of the north yourself!
    Id say the average Celtic fan of an Irish Republican persuasion knows more about the conflict in the North than the average person in the free state. (& i dont mean you here)
     
    oranBhoy, Jul 28, 2011
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    Disappointed as it was there again last night.
     
    im_ant, Jul 28, 2011
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    why can you not just concentrate on the football it seems ppl are listening out for these so called sectarian songs they have been sung for years mabe the song have changed a bit but the message is still the same,

    footballs a working class mans game so why are ppl geting all worked up over * songs
     
    rory murphy, Jul 28, 2011
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    And it'll be there again on Sunday, and every other weekend of the year
     
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    The average Celtic fan gets a very one sided skewed view of the situation in Northern Ireland through a mix of one-sided traditions and the fact that it tends to be strong republicans from Ulster who are attracted to Celtic. That way people never will get a proper understanding. You need to understand both sides.

    The average Celtic fan (Scottish or Irish) is far more republican than the average Irish person in my experience. How many Irish outside the 6 counties of N Ireland vote for a hardline republican party with a strong focus on the N Ireland situation. Not many. 10% maybe? Far too many Scottish Celtic fans adopt exagerratedly republican and bitter stances on Ireland IMO and its totally out of step with the vast majority of real Irish people. Someone called them 'west Brits' like these moderate Irish people are some sort of oddball pro-British majority but the truth is there are 9 of them for every hardline republican in Ireland.
     
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    The away supporters are probably the better support as they make an effort and pay extra to travel to away grounds to follow Celtic. Almost 100% of the away travellers sing these songs and the atmosphere is electric win or lose at away games. The songs, for example Broad Black Brimmer and Roll of Honour, almost the whole away crowd have joined in and bounce up and down like the Green Brigade are so often praised for at Parkhead. The away travellers in my opinion make more of an effort to back the team and seem to have the right idea about the club. So why is everyone saying "they are an embaressment to the club" for the choice of song they sing? I for one feel it would be more embarrassing if the whole away support were offended by these NON SECTARIAN chants and sat quiet the majority of the away games, except for perhaps standing and singing I Just Can't Get Enough, or Let's All Do The Huddle on rotation. It adds a bit of culture, and rebellion... Which makes it more than a football club with average fans... It makes it a family who tell tales and songs of troubled past and Irish history! And if your not Irish, which I am not, but I have Irish decendents. In all fairness you knew what you were getting into when you started supporting Celtic so don't come in and moan and try to change a club, and it's award winning and worldwide known support.

    Sectarianism should be stamped out. History should be talked about and proudly
     
    sh4rk3y, Jul 28, 2011
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    Yes the truth is that the majority in the free state sadly couldnt care less about the 6 counties,doesnt mean they are right.. or that the views of the Irish that are still living under British occupation are 'skewed'

    Which is exactly why im saying that the average celtic supporting republican knows more (even if it is a bit one sided) than the average citizen of the 26 counties!
     
    oranBhoy, Jul 28, 2011
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    spot on!:50:
     
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