[Link] Ki Seung interesting Liverpool

Despite being an international, he is still second string behind Ledley and Kayal. Played well at the end of the season but hasnt shown enough in the 18mths that he has been here. Cost £2m if we were to get £5/6m then we should take it.

On a side note, we arent making enough income from players. The last few seasons we have had far too many players go for free or wind down their contracts.

Put it another way, if we got £5m for Ki, that would go a long way to getting a player such as Long into the side.

 

would sell brown before him, ki,s going to be a cracker for us within the next few years imo

 

I think we should just cut to the chase. There is an EPL club after every single one of our players this summer.

Except for Samaras of course. We're stuck with him.

 

who are also internationals remember, so whether hes an international or not is irrelevent imo

 

Was he not dubbed as an Asian Steven Gerrard when he joined?
Think Ki is a great player and would love to see him stay but if the money comes and it is difficult to keep players when to Premiership clubs want out players

 

No, its relevant because he has more caps than both the players ahead of him and much more international experience having played in the Asian Cup as well as many WC qualifiers.

If it was between him and Brown, I would keep Brown, who can play wide a well as Centre Mid.

We do really need to start turning a profit on players who arent performing consistently. Its all very well saying he will come good in a couple of seasons, but then what? His contract is at an end and he will move on. I think that 18months for an international who cost a lot of money is long enough. If a fee that doubles what he costs comes in , lets take it and move on.

Can anyone honestly say that Ki has shown his true value in his time here? Consistently? The answer has to be no.

 

erm...tbh i dont think he's had a chance to consistantly show his true value, the majority of players need a consistant run of games to play consistantly well and im sure the majority would agree that when ki has had a run of games, his individual performance has been pretty good, he was good when in november to december and he was good at the end there, aswell as a few impressive old firm shifts.

i thinks he's a valuable player in our squad and we should keep him for atleast another year, who says we cant give him a new contract anyways?

that would rule out any cut-price deal

 

Well if it was Ki or Brown then most people know who i would chose, and thats Ki.

As for the comment about played well just at the end of the season thats the largest amount of bullcrap ive read for some time, its the same old same old on here people who just don't like him and its the same people going id rather someone else than him. Ki was our best player up till christmas so theres 6 months, and then played very well for the last month, theres 7 months of the year, hmm thats more than the revered Kayal is it not who had a solid 4/5 months.

I can't believe some people on here would want to sell a current celtic player for another player they will have hardly seen in action at all, and a player who has a distinctly average goal scoring record. Obviously you can't convince some people, so set in their views.

Obviously if a bid came in that was too good to refuse then he's off, but the same can be said of every single player at celtic right now.

 

I would keep Ki, what's the point in buying these young talented guys if we just punt them the minute they look good? Ki will be a star for us if given the chance.

 

well it just shows that our young squad are doing somthing right, only a matter of time before teams want our players and if they have another good season then they will be at other clubs, and we can use the money to re-invest in more young players to make more money

 

tbh i dont completely agree with this, Izzy was our best performer in the first half of the season, but i think there was 2 months where Ki was up there as one of our best, if not best

 

I would rather keep him just now as he has got better the more he has adapted to our game. There are games he is suited for like when we are trying to break teams down at home who sit deep.

 

Im not saying we should actively be hawking him around clubs, but if an offer comes in then we would be daft not to consider it. We have a shedload of midfielders and need to strengthen elsewhere in the park. True Ki was on of our better performers prior to going to the Asian Cup, but he was also a part of the team in that spell of Nov/Dec where we dropped 9 points in 5 games.

For me he has had plenty of opportunity to cement a place and isnt going to replace Ledley or Kayal and if a big fee came in then it would allow us to strengthen elsewhere. He is not irreplaceable at the moment.

 

I have to say kemosabe, you usually talk sense but this is just utter manure of the highest order.

So we should sell a highly-rated 22 year old midfielder with 40 international caps because he is only just starting to make an impact after 18 months? Only in Scotland would the fact that a 22 year old has already represented his country on 40 occasions be used as a noose to hang him with. The kid came from the other side of the world aged 20 for * sake, no wonder it took him a little bit of time to adapt to the cultural and footballing differences.

The logic that if it came down to selling Brown or Ki you would punt Ki because brown, as well as playing right mid, can also do a poor impression of a central midfielder is also madness. I'm a broony fan and I appreciate the qualities he brings to the team, but surely any football fan can see that Ki has more footballing ability in his left foot than Scott Brown has in his entire body. Ki is the only one of our midfielders capable of properly dictating the Tempo of the play and is comfortably our best passer of the football.

As for Shane Long, the fact that Reading want silly money for an unproven striker with a year left on his contract should have no bearing on us selling a massively talented midfielder. If you want to see us make money, then I would suggest punting imposters like Juarez, Murphy, McCourt ahead of genuinely talented players.

In answer to your last question? NO. We have not yet seen Ki's true value due to the fact, as I mentioned earlier, that the kid is 22! I for one want to watch Ki fulfill his potential at celtic park, not on MOTD.

 

Gerrard, Lucas, Aquilani, Henderson, Spearing, Meireles, Shelvey, Poulsen etc. Would he be guaranteed to walk right into their central midfield right now as well?

 

ki was the main man up til xmas-ad sell a fair few before him-brown n maloney spring to mind

 

imo if kayal stays here it will only be for another year and thats another year ki had to develop even further and i honestly think he can be an absolute gem i think hes got loads of potential if anyone ever reads up on players stats after a game youll see what i mean is passes pass success rate and distance coverd is usually as high as any the passes is without doubt always immense he has a big future just hope he is here to fufill it and not been sold off

 

I havent said we should sell him. I said that if an offer comes in for him that is @ the £5m mark I think we should accept it. I think there are only a few players in the team who are irreplaceable at the moment. Izzy, Kayal, Ledley, Commons and Hooper.

I dont agree he is making an impact. When he went to the AC and Kayal came into the side, the team really clicked, and he hasnt been able to get back in. Lennon obviously feels the same. Yes he played well towards the end of the season, but outstanding? Would you still want him in before Ledley or Kayal? I Wouldnt, and that makes him a squad player. Im not using his caps to hang him, simply that for a player who cost more than Ledley and Kayal we arent getting as much out of him.

My point on Brown is that he has shown more consistency at RM, and can play CM at a push. Ki is Centre Midfield or nothing. Where he came from doesnt matter a jot, how old he is doesnt matter a jot, its what he offers our club now that I care about. Juarez, will go, and Murphy and McCourt will not bring any transfer fee in, so thats just silly, though Murphy can go for eff all as far as Im concerned.

Lastly, how long do we give him then? He has been here 18mths, how long was his contract? 4 years? So another season he has 18mts left or so. If he plays well and a club comes in for him, his fee is lower because of the time left, if he doesnt, no-one will come in and he will wind his contract down and leave for free. Its happened with too many players in recent seasons for me. Nakamura and JVoH are two examples.

That is the point I am trying to make. Im not advocating us hawking our better players, but if a fee comes in, we must consider it. Dont you agree?

At the end of the day I doubt it will happen, its the silly season and this is all talk.

 

I don't think Ki is going to Liverpool lads. TalkSport is hardly one of the more reliable news sites and with not much really happening so far in the summer transfer window, they will be clutching on to anything that they can possibly turn into a news article and attract more interest to their website.

I think Ki will be here for at least another few seasons. He is still a young player and whilst I wasn't really impressed with him when he first joined us, he has grown on me now, especially at the tail end of last season, with his goal in the Cup Final etc.

 

The only consideration I would give a £5 million pound bid is how to word the angry reply to the scousers. I would honestly be horrified if we sold him for that price. You can't allow yourself to be governed by fear when it comes to contracts. I understand that it's better to receive a fee for every player but would you have rather sold Naka for 5 million 18 months into his contract or have had a quality player for 4 years? Ki's value could go down in 18 months, or he could play superbly and his value could rocket. There is little point in speculating about the contractual value of a player with 30 months left on his contract.

To say that what a player does in the first team right now (and I think Ki has shown an awful lot more than he gets credit for) is all that is important is frankly laughable. With that logic Barca would have punted Messi aged 15 as at that exact moment in time, regardless of potential, he wasn't displacing the players ahead of him.

I prefer him to Ledley. I think he is a better footballer, especially considering ledley is 2 years ahead of him in his football development. Although there is not much to choose between them right now I think Ki will go onto become a far superior player.