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Cutting the Deadwood!!

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by FlaviusMecurius, Jun 1, 2011.

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  1. FlaviusMecurius

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    Just wondering who is all likely to leave this summer, and what kind of capital they might bring in fee-wise and the freeing up of wages.

    as we are all aware the lack of CL dosh has hampered us in terms of spending due to the increase in overall debt.

    and we are operating largely on £5m a season budgets subsidised by outgoing players although not all the monies brought in seem to geting spent take last season for instance, McGeadys fee covered all of our transfer dealings never mind the extra 2.5-3M brought in through the sales of Boruc and big McManus!!

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    Forster- for obvious reasons, but would you have him back?

    Zaluska- in my opinion was found seriously wanting in early season
    be lucky to get 500k for him

    Hinkel- freedom of contract 18-20k a week saved?

    Loovens- never been confident in him too weak for me
    kenny miller proved that £750k-1M and 10k

    Cha- services not required with matthews in and wilsons form being terrific
    £1m and 10k a week

    Juarez- dunno why it hasnt worked out for him perplexed the same as
    fan who seen him pre-season and early season need to try and
    claw back as much of the fee as poss. £2m and 15kpw

    Ljungberg- perennially injured cracking player but too much of a risk
    25k pw

    Maloney- a robber pure and simple id accept almost any fee offered to
    get this guy off the wage bill a total drain on resources
    more so than my kids!! plus he must be on a good wage
    15-20+?

    McGinn- just not good enough 500k and 5k pw

    McCourt- a mercurial talent but i dunno about paddy i just dont see
    where he fits in and for his careers sake hes too good to be
    benched every week here £1.5M 4k pw

    Murphy- should never have been bought in the first place a million pound
    mistake!! 500k 10k pw

    Sammi- i like sammi as well but he frustrates me to bits and i want him
    gone before i end up bald would do well in spain or italy i feel
    £2M purely due to the new contract and 15-20k pw

    Stokes- has been a good signing for the outlay but i feel hes more hassle
    than hes worth always a story and the whole too tired to play for
    Eire after a 25min cameo in the cup final was a joke bit lazy bit
    moany £2m 10k pw

    Hooiveld- never kicked his career off here properly but shouldve avoided
    talking to the press before he had a run in the side shame but
    £1m 8k pw

    McGowan- just nowhere near good enough let him go for free

    O'Dea- thanks for the cup final against the huns but hes had plenty of
    time to try and cement a place move him on 500k

    Hutchison- what that your thinking who?
    aye me too!

    so thats me list bring in around 10-11M there and save a pretty penny in wages too i'd bet!!

    now i know theres a lot of players here but we have a first team 0f 38 guys including the fellas on loan a 24 man squad is more than enough for us to be getting on with. i also know the chances of moving all these guys on is slim but a Bhoy can dream!:50:
     
  2. MonitorBhoy

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    I'd punt the same - except I'd keep Stokes.

    I'd also love it if we brought in 2-3 top quality players and used our top performing U-19's as squad players to bulk it out :)
     
  3. TAB

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    Disagree with a few of the players you would sell but I do agree we must trim the squad. We could save a huge amount of wages and gain a good few million. Add that to whatever the board are willing to make available and we can really push on from last season - by adding quality not quantity.

    Biggest problem is getting clubs interested in some of the players.
     
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    agree with most apart from maloney ,think he is an honest player who has not had any luck ,if the same happens again nxt season then yes lose him.
     
  5. Jamesy Bhoy 7

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    Baffles me why people would want to sell stokes, his so called bad attitude gets over exaggerated on here.
     
  6. FlaviusMecurius

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    Just out of interest TAB which players?

    i did swither with Juarez due to his early season form so disappointed in him.
    paddy and stokes too are a tad harsh after stokesy goals and assists return this season!

    Gotta say Jamesy its the moaning face that does it for me i was never a scott mcdonald fan cos of his wee greetin face and stokesy has the same wee face at times for me that is all plus the fact i think its good business and hes easily replaceable
     
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  7. BelfastCelt88

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    Only one i'd not sell would be Stokes.
     
  8. MonitorBhoy

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    totally agreed.
     
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    Feel the same
     
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    Couldnt agree more, love stokes, think he will grow into a cracking player for us!! Hail hail
     
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    Stokes - He's had a great season and like Jamesy said, his attitude is exaggerated.

    Cha - Not seen the best of him and he's an option at RM when Brown's out.

    Juarez - I want us to keep him, watched him for his previous club and for his country and he's good enough to be starting. I can only think that he's struggling to settle in Scotland.

    McCourt - I would like us to keep him as an impact sub, as long as he's happy playing a small part.


    I could live with it if we sold McCourt and Juarez. Both have different problems and it would be understandable if both were to go. Would like to see more of Cha and would definitely keep Stokes.
     
  12. FlaviusMecurius

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    i see what your saying about Cha i remeber the st johnstone game just before he and ki went the asian cup, but we have forrest as a right sided option plus the boy mcgeogh is supposed to be a real talent and can play right side coupled with cha's age i just think he'll be picking up a good wage while in the main contributing nothing to the team other than depth
     
  13. Jamesy Bhoy 7

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    I dont see how selling our 2nd top goalscorer and one of our most productive players in assists aswell would be good business, when stokes, commons and hooper are linking up thats when we are at our most dangerous.
    Selling 3 of our 4 man strikeforce would be daft imo, sammy possibly, murphy definitely but selling stokes aswell especially since we know him and hooper play well together upfront would be a mistake imo.
     
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    So get rid of them all and have no subs !!!!
     
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    instead of selling stokes I would sell rass
     
  16. selbybhoy

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    Lets sell the seats and the toilet seats while we are at it

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  17. GreenLeanMean

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    Goalkeeper:
    24 Lukasz Zaluska 26 Fraser Forster 47 Dominic Cervi
    Defender:
    2 Andreas Hinkel 3 Emilio Izaguirre 4 Efrain Juarez 5 Daniel Majstorovic 11 Cha Du-Ri 12 Mark Wilson 21 Charlie Mulgrew 22 Glenn Loovens 25 Thomas Rogne 45 Lewis Toshney - Kelvin Wilson
    Midfielder:
    7 Fredrik Ljungberg 8 Scott Brown 13 Shaun Maloney 14 Niall McGinn 15 Kris Commons 16 Joe Ledley 18 Ki Sung-Yong 20 Paddy McCourt 30 Paul Slane 33 Beram Kayal 36 Graham Carey 56 Filip Twardzik
    Striker:
    9 Georgios Samaras 10 Anthony Stokes 27 Daryl Murphy 28 James Keatings 49 James Forrest 55 Paul McGowan 88 Gary Hooper
    On Loan:
    6 Jos Hooiveld (to FC Copenhagen) 19 Morten Rasmussen (to FSV Mainz 05) 23 Ben Hutchinson (to Lincoln City) 31 Richard Towell (to Hibernian) 38 Josh Thompson (to Rochdale) 48 Darren O'Dea (to Ipswich Town) 54 Ryan Conroy (to Queen Of The South)
     
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  18. selbybhoy

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    sell the tiles off the wall
     
  19. GreenLeanMean

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    out GK forster and maybe zaluska
    DF Loovens hooiveld O'dea
    MF Ljunberg McGinn McCourt and maybe juarez
    FW Murphy McGowan Hutchinson
     
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    agree with most of what you have said about OTT with wee shaun but still he needs to move on

    also in bold about stokes i would keep him we paid 1.2m for him yet you would only want 800k on top of that for one of our best player this season and also joint top scorer and most assists aswell

    if he was to leave i would want a club down south to pay around 3.5m-4m for him