Complaint to the BBC

dont hold yer breath mate

 

I chose yes on reply as well but as you say I ain't holding my breath but hopefully it'll make them have a good look at themselves. Still can't believe how they can say these songs are sectarian when they clearly ain't, if someone, from Rangers for example, was to sing in support of the British Army it wouldn't be sectarian so how come it is being condemned as sectarian when some of the Celtic support sing for the IRA, some may say it is wrong but that is a different topic altogether as it is political and in no way sectarian.

 

This is another attempt by the powers at be to "water down" and "share" the blame for sectarianism. Yet another attempt to find Celtic guilty by association "both are as bad as each other"
Correct me if I am wrong, but Walter Smith was never sent bullets, never given death threats, never had his picture on the 'net covered in bullet holes, never sent lethal bombs in the post or any of his players had bullets sent to them....sectarianism is a one way street in this country....and we know which way it runs!!!

Mailed the BBC....

"I would like to point out an inaccuracy made by Mr. Rob MaClean today at half time during the BBC's coverage of the Scottish Cup final.
He stated that Celtic fans had been singing "sectarian" songs and that this is unacceptable behaviour. The panel agreed with this.
I would like to point out that the songs that the Celtic fans sung were in actual fact, political. The songs that were sung were; The Boys of the Old Brigade and The Soldiers Song.
You will find the lyrics to both songs easily on the internet and, suggest that you have a look and inform me exactly WHERE in the song there are sectarian lyrics or even implies any sectarian ideas or notions.
I feel that Mr. MaClean's comments today tarnished the good reputation of the Celtic support and accused them of sectarianism, when it very obviously was not the case.
I hope that an apology will be issued and the BBC's position made clear on the difference between political beliefs and sectarian ones."

 

Same for me.

Went away at half time though and put BBC Scotland on and the only thing I heard them going on about was how Maj was lucky to be on the pitch.

Hope Celtic FC release a statement.

 

How can people so high up in the broadcasting of this sport be:

1. So clueless about the game and general tactics etc,
2. So lazy to just use this magic word sectarian to cover everysong they hear at a game.

 

I'm not gona let this * bother me today.

HAIL HAIL Celtic Scottish cups champions 10/11.

 

I didnt watch it on teh bbc but ill send a complaint anyway,lol

 

bad broadcasting fromt them today . just sent through this complaint.

At half time during the cup final , Rob Mclean ignorantly , and falsely stated that celtic fans had been singing " sectarian " songs during the first half . I immediately found this statement suprising and questioned its validity , as i am a passioante Celtic supporter, and am not aware of any sectarian celtic songs. After watching through the first half again , i found/ heard no sectarian singing from the Celtic support. I only heard political anthems such as ,"boys of the old brigade " and " soldiers song " . I can only assume it was these song that Mclean follishly branded as sectarian . These songs are political , and a celbration of Irish history . They do not preech hatred of another group . They are similiar to " flower of scotland " which talks about defeating armies , and is fairly similiar in context to Soldiers song , and Boys of the old brigade.
The fact is , the "boys of the old brigade" is a pro IRA song . This may well cause offence to some , just as * save the queen may cause offence to the families who have lost loved ones at the hands of the British armed forces. Political songs may cause offence , that is the nature of politics and the differing political ideoligies within this country, there is bound to be differing opinions. But the bottom line is , Celtic sang political songs , that are historical, but in no way sectarian .

I would like to officially accuse Rob Mclean , and the BBC , of slandering the Celtic support live on air , with these lies about sectarian singing . Sectarian is just a current buzz word , being used far too often against an undeserving Celtic support. To use that word in that context today was slanderous , ignorant , and quite frankly , lazy journlism . It is a shame to see a media corporation the size of the BBC jumping on a bandwagon and falsely throwing around the sectarian buzzword , in a manner i would hardly expext from a bad tabloid newspapaer.

For these on air lies, i would like a full apology , and feel the BBC owe an apology to the Celtic support , on a day that has been maily joyful , your organisation has unfortunately slandered the good name of the Celtc supprt.

 

Maybe it's just my selective memory but I don't ever recall a BBC presenter highlighting sectarian singing at HT during coverage of a Rangers match. So why did it happen today?

It really * * me off this. I will now be watching the coverage of the next Rangers match that is live on the BBC very, very closely.

 

Just posted in my complaint as well -

I'd like to complain about the coverage of the Scottish Cup Final regarding the unacceptable & ridiculous comments made by certain members of the program presenters at half-time.

Certain presenters in the studio took it upon themselves to state that there was sectarian singing by the Celtic supporters. This is complete and utter rubbish. The two songs that were in question, I gather, were "Boys From The Old Brigade" and "Soldiers Song". These songs have NO bearing on religious PREJUDICE what-so-ever and are songs that are sung relating to the Irish War of Independence from 1919 - 1921. If these presenters had done their homework they would know this. If these songs are to be condemned as "sectarian" then why don't these same presenters condemn "* Save The Queen" and "Flower Of Scotland" as these songs relate to the similar subjects? I have not heard one single presenter EVER condemn Rangers supporters for continually singing "* Save The Queen" but as soon as Celtic supporters sing any of the two songs mentioned, it is immediately brought up and branded (wrongly) as sectarian. A pure case of double standards if ever I heard one.

To add, why have these presenters decided to bring this up on the last football match of the season when there have been a countless amount of times throughout the season Rangers supporters, for example, have been heard loud and clear singing purely sectarian songs (this years CIS CUP Final as one example) & chanting bigoted views towards Neil Lennon? One chant that was heard being sung by these "supporters" at the most recent Rangers v Celtic match was "what's it like to live in fear". Was this subject brought up and condemned? No.

This has not been a small minority either, as certain areas of the press & SFA have stated, as it has been thousands of fans that can be clearly heard singing & chanting. There were even large sections of Hearts supporters applauding the imbecile that assaulted Neil Lennon at the most recent Hearts v Celtic match but nothing was mentioned regarding this matter either.

Our own governing body has even refused to actually deal with this for years and it has taken UEFA to bring it to the fore-front (again) when Rangers fans were caught, once again, singing sectarian & bigoted songs when they played PSV Eindhoven in this seasons Europa Cup. This is now the THIRD time that Rangers have been fined/punished by UEFA for their fans singing bigoted songs. There were another 2 separate incidents that included a certain amount of riots in Manchester in 2008 and a bus carrying Villareal players being stoned in 2006 but why count these incidents when the first three aren't?

Celtic fans have been impeccable when they have played in Europe, away or at home, receiving the FIFA Fair Play Award & the UEFA Fair Play Award for their behaviour yet Celtic fans STILL get brought into the same mix even IF the SFA bring the subject of dealing with sectarianism up. Even when it has been matches Celtic have had nothing to do with their supporters still get drug down into the gutter.

Our own governing footballing body even took a ridiculous amount of time to condemn the death threats, mail bombs and bullets aimed at Neil Lennon, Niall McGinn & Paddy McCourt that were sent through the post. With ALL of the above and aforementioned happening, what are your presenters focused on? The NON-sectarian songs sung by Celtic supporters.

These presenters need to either do their studying on what actually IS sectarian or just not comment on what they know clearly nothing about. The comments also have to be UNBIASED which these ones the presenters were stating clearly were NOT.

With biased views & comments like this there will be little wonder why viewers will not tune in to watch any sports programs presented by the BBC and I would not blame them one single bit.

A bit long winded but just sent in what I felt :icon_mrgreen:

 

We aren't being sectarian.

 

nice one sister..

 

the *-piece!

 

FAO: CelticBhoyDavid

Do you mind if I copy and send your complaint, I can't think clearly right now - too busy celebrating?

I hope we all complain somehow and rattle somebody's cage. Those comments by McLean are still annoying me 3 hours on, plus the fact that Celtic fans also help pay the * wages.

 

Lucky them :icon_mrgreen:

 

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Go for it mate.

 

I guess this is because they had no actual footage of Celtic fans "sectarian" chants and just a journos word for it...

How many * times have the huns over the years sung vile songs on the very same channel? But all of a sudden they choose to criticise US. Hunbelievable.