Ian Tomlinson unlawfully killed

A question which has (rightly) been raised over the past day or so in light of the uproar over the Mark Duggan killing is why we've seen less than a fraction of the condemnation and public outcry for Ian Tomlinson's death?

A regular Joe get's killed for doing * all and we see next to nothing, but a local gangster gets killed under the belief he had a gun on him and all * breaks loose.

 

My theory on this would be while Tomlinson death was unfortunate, it was a freak accident, how many times does someone get pushed and it kills them?, rarely.

Duggan's death was different, there was clear intent by the marksman to murder him, hence they shot him with bullets.

 

In short, because Duggan was 'black'.

 

Yeah but they get well paid for it. I was part of a recruitment drive for Merseyside police in 2006 and the starting salary was £20,500. Probably near £25,000 by now. Not bad considering you can join up when you're 18 and a half.


Edit: Not forgetting other benefits like low interest mortgages and rent free housing.

 

When I read the thread title I thought this guy had been lawfully killed.



I'm gutted now.

 

I'm working on it.

 

It's society nowadays in the UK.

There is distinct groups who seem to get a lot of media attention - you can take sport as an example - women, gays and black players seem to get a lot of attention as if they are all being discriminated against in football. Just take a look at BBC SPORT and look how many articles they have had on the above over the last year or so.

The uproar with Duggan is because he is black. Simple as.

This guy was most defs unlawfully killed, had he been a drug dealer in London I doubt it would have even instigated an enquiry.

This county is a * minefield with offensiveness and prejudice against certain groups, and is reflected in the media coverage of incidents involving people who are in such categories: which is gross.

Saying that though, Roman Catholics in Scotland have been one of the most prejudiced against group in recent history but there is no BBC SPORT article on Jon Daly overcoming the odds at Mordor funnily enough.

It's hard being a straight white male in this country

 

There was a massive amount of uproar when the police murdered Tomlinson. It was in 2009 so people seem to have forgotten the amount of stuff that went on around it. People remember the 'big' parts of the story but not all of it. Of course there was no mass rioting where the police where humiliated and defeated, so I guess anything besides that is a 'small' response.

I don't see what your getting at?

Oh you poor soul. It must be hard having to scroll past that one article every week about woman's football. Stay strong

Also, people complain when the terrible Scottish media ignore all the anti-Irish bigotry that goes on in this country (and I'm sure like me, that * you off watching all their bias) but then you complain when media down south draws attention to racism and bigotry that every minority community in this country faces daily.

 

Black players just take all the darn limelight don't they?

 

He's nae black.

 

Black as yer boot.

 

Nae chance.

 

1 article a week? Pfffft, every 2nd article is either about gays blacks or women.

Roman Catholics have suffered prejudice in football longer than woman or blacks; in Scotland anyway.

 

I feel for you bro

In football, and in Scottish society in general Catholics have faced discrimination for just as long as woman, blacks and gays but I never knew it was a competition for the "longest amount of time been seen as a second class citizen" award.

 

I always find it interesting that in todays society the media always garners the most sympathy for the thugs and criminals who are the victims of police aggression and brutality, simply because they are minorities.

When Joe Bristol walking down the street gets his face taken off by a copper there's hardly a peep out of the media.

Its the same over here in America.

 

Thats wrong.
Its not about who they murdered, they could have murdered a scumbag or a angel.
Its the way they murdered him, the police is suppose to protect the people, not shoot them dead in cold blood, this sort of thing makes a whole mockery of the justice system.

 

The reason there isn't as much attention on this is that the cop clearly wasnt trying to kill anyone. Although I think there was too much uproar at some lowlife drug dealer getting shot.

Anyone know how this guy died by the way? He must have had medical problems of some kind.

 

He died from being hit by a police baton and then shoved full force in the back, causing him to fall on his elbow which it was said "impacted in the area of his liver causing an internal bleed which led to his death a few minutes later".

Basically, the police officer in question smacked an unarmed man full force from behind with a baton, causing him to fall unprotected to the ground. The combination of the baton hit and the shove being from behind and unexpected ensured he hit the ground with no chance of protecting himself.

 

Didn't see the baton hit on first viewing, still don't think anyone could have known he'd die. Cop shouldn't have shoved him anyway though.

 

A police baton, if used by a regular member of the public, is considered a deadly weapon under British law.

If used by a police officer on an unsuspecting person, from behind, it's the same. Deadly weapons kill people.