Worst Case Scenario: Lenny Leaves. What then?

The difference is O'Neill never really got involved much in the Old Firm flashpoints. He is a quiet guy, likes to just do his job and keep himself to himself. Lenny is a totally different character. He likes to get involved (as you seen with McCoist and Diouf) and is nowhere near as soft-spoken and polite as O'Neill was during his time in Glasgow. Lennon is a fiery character, not afraid to say what he really thinks and they hate him for it.

It also doesn't help that he went on that now infamous DOB rant, when we were losing at Ibrox back in the early part of the decade. I can't recall O'Neill ever saying a bad word against officials or anyone associated with Rangers. That right there, is the difference.

 

if lennon leaves get lambert in he wont leave but

 

Don't worry about Lenny walking, he's a winner and he'll learn how to handle the media,referees and himself to a certain extent.

As he becomes more experienced in the job he will be able to shrug off the obvious provocation and will go on to be our most successful manager since Stein.

Lenny is a fiery character and this is what the club needs, this season will be a huge learning curb for him as he makes the leaps from player to coach to one of the biggest jobs in football!

In Lenny we trust!!

 

if he has resign we kick up an absolute * storm. do absolutely anything we can to disrupt the SFA and Rankers FC

 

I cannot believe these bigoted * are doing this in an attempt to drive Lenny out of the managers job! Is this there philosophy? If we were doing poor right now then none of them would care! Its that Lenny is unexpectedly doing a tremendous job as Gaffer and they sad pathetic huns can't accept it

 

Wish it was seen as I live there.:icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreenHardly a boast though)

Personally I don`t see Neil Lennon leaving in the forseeable future, why I believe he prob wants to see out what he has started at the club. Hopefully the fuckwits will be dealt with and the police do some of their talking on this situation and not blaming clubs for the problems which exist in this country. Becasue there are plenty of * in Scotland that would attempt this sort of * (through cowardice intimidation of an individual).

 

i now live in cheshire but my 16 year old celtic daft daughter still lives in glasgow ive told her tonight i dont want her to wear her celtic top when shes out . is this what glasgows coming to

 

I think we should use this forum as a springboard of protest, against the treatment these animals, are enforcing on Neil Lennon and his family. I personally don't give a * what religion any of us are, no human being should ever be treated, the way Neil and his family are. I'm a numpty on computers, but surely in this day and age, the police have some sort of technique, that can trace the low-lifes,who are bombarding the rangers media, with death threats, and death wishes on Neil Lennon and his family, including his family in Ireland. Surely they can trace these vile, evil *, and make them stand by their convictions in a court of law. If you or me, walked up to a stranger in the street, and threatened their life, we would be in the back of a meat waggon, within minutes. So why can't they trace them for tearing apart someones life. We can all say, this and that, but it's poor Lenny and his family who have to go to bed at night, with these thoughts in their heads, not us. So, I think the time has come for us to stand up for Lenny and his family,but lets do it the right way, so the people of Scotland sit up, and take notice. Let's expose these people at every turn, lets remind the people, how sectarian this mob were, and still are, let's remind them, that for over 100 years, they were that bitter, they wouldn't even employ a Catholic, let's remind them of the bigotry, they belt out every week at Ibrox, their songs of prejudice against any creed or race they don't agree with, how they are up to their knees in * blood week after week, how they desecrate the leader of the Catholic Church, how they poke sick fun at paedophilia,how their own fans racially abuse their own players (edu), how their fans sing about the death of Tommy Burns, or how they throw vile on Jock Stein, or maybe how they behaved like wild animals, down at Manchester, Spain, etc. *, I could go on, and on,about this mob all night, with their negatives, but lets expose them together, let's tell the world how vile this mob are, Lets all tell Lenny,that he will never walk alone. This wee guy, has given us his heart and sole,so we owe him big time, lets ensure we" keep the Lenny campaign" up, this wee guy, needs our help if he is going to win, and win he will, with us on his side. I'm with you Lenny

 

it is * discusting the way neil lennon is getting treated! if he gets forced out the job there will be a war!

 

well it kind of demonstrates that it is not really about Lenny being a northern Irish catholic Celtic manager as MON was one and got no grief. I think the problem as you say is about his image. I think to the opposite side Lenny sometimes comes across as an agressive diehard, maybe a bit neddy. Of course, in reality he isnt but I think to Rangers fans he is seen like we saw Ian Ferguson or the like. MON could never have been seen like that as he sort of came across almost like a statesman.

 

No but I understand that the bullets etc were linked back to paramilitaries in northern Ireland. Scotland is just the diet version.

 

Aye but its scary people in Ireland not Scotland that have been sending him bullets etc. Yes this country has a sectarian element but its not a segregated society with paramilitary groups ruling over their own segregated communities. As for sectarian backwater, PART of Scotland around the central belt and SW is * deep in sectarianism but its about 100 times less in the rest of Scotland. I dont think people who live in the sectarian area of Scotland realise just how oddball their hate-filled corner of the country is. Scotland is like Ireland in that all the sectarian strife is concentrated into about 25% of the country.

 

It's accross all of the Central Belt and in places like Aberdeen. Now if you put together all of the Central Belt and Aberdeen; how much of that is the population of this country?

Far more than 25% and that's just arguing on semantics. It is undeniable that Scotland as a whole has a very secterain and ingrained institutional sectarian element.

Out of all the people on this forum you are the only one that continually deny this. Which I find very, very odd.

 

Probably because about 95% of poster based in the British Isles are from the west-central part of Scotland or from Ireland. There are not too many posting here from the east (other than Fife), the north-east or the highlands. There is a small sprinkling but I notice they dont have the sectarianism everywhere world view, probably because it is not the reality of these areas. This forum and Celtic fans in general are overwhelmingly people from the ex-industrial sectarian parts of Scotland and people from Northern Ireland.

Aberdeen??? I know places like Aberdeen and Dundee well in the north-east and sectarianism is not at all common there. I think there is only about 1 or 2 orang lodges north of the Tay on the east coast for a start, compared to dozens if not 100s around the Clyde, west-central area and south-west coast.

Sorry but there is a mentality in west-central Scotland that the rest of us think like them. Yes you will get a small element everywhere because they move around (bet you any sectarianism in Aberdeen is blow-ins from the south-west coming to work on the rigs).

 

I've worked very closely with people from Aberdeen and they have a very bigoted outlook, just get any Don started on the subject of Rangers and it won't be too long until it comes to the fore.

The East, how will Edinburgh do you for the east? Which is no different from Glasgow. Most people in this country come from the Central Belt and it is rife. That's not even including places like Ayrshire where it is possibly worse than Glasgow.

Dundee you admit yourself about the lodges; it isn't long ago Dundee fans where chanting at us about being up to there knees in * blood. It is the vast majority of areas in Scotland.

We are an odd wee country, a * bigoted wee country. There is no arguing against that.

 

This was talked about not so long ago and posters form said that even the central belt is far worse at its west end than in the east. In fact I recall a poster from (I think) it was just west of Edinburgh who said sectarianism is pretty rare and not even really a topic of conversation there. I know east coasters who went to the Lanarkshire and said the way people thought of themselves as two tribes and hated each other in that area was like an entirely alien planet compared to where they were from and had basically only heard of this stuff through the papers.

 

One word against this: Tynecastle.

 

I think in the east the fans just chant anything they know will upset whichever side of the OF is visiting. As for Dundee fans. I have a mate who is a Dundee fan and the song (to the tune of Billy Boys) is actually Derry Boys, referring to a stand at Dens Park known as the Derry end (nothing to do with Ireland by the way). That is a city of about 180,000 and there is not a single Orange lodge in it. They probably do the same thing to Rangers.

As for Aberdonians being bigotted against Rangers, that is just inter-club hate. Its not religion. In fact Aberdeen is the most protestant city in Scotland. However, the protestantism in the area has always been mild and nothing like that in SW Scotland. In fact that is a tradition that goes back about 400 years. I think the deep hatred between Aberdeen and Rangers only goes back to the 1980s.

 

Let's just agree to disagree, I've experienced it in most places in Scotland so it's not something you will ever persuade me off and this is off topic anyway.

The thread title btw, I'd say if worst case scenario is Lennon actually getting murdered.

Which would most likely turn Glasgow into a no go zone.

 

Have you ever lived or even extensively visited Edinburgh? If you think racist or bigoted element is in any way representative of Edinburgh people then you are wrong. Edinburgh is a city where sectarianism is only a really tiny minority of dregs. Hibs too have lost their religious sectarian angle. Its only in the west-central area that people think of themselves as two different groups. That is more like northern Ireland than the rest of Scotland. Seriously, there is probably more sectarianism in England than there is in the north-east of Scotland.