Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

was a great display tonight, was good to be part of it, first display ive seen that came with instructions :smiley-laughing002:

 

Hearing the Ajax * ran amok up the Gallowgate smashing up emerald and hoops

 

Really

 

Looks brilliant, hopefully see it from a distance later.

 

* sake

 

https://commonspace.scot/articles/3...ng-class-football-fans-like-societal-outcasts

Football fan and Fans Against Criminalisation campaigner Paul Quigley says the Scottish Government must U-turn on its legislation affecting football fans amid claims of increasing police heavy-handedness

AS Scottish domestic football resumed at the weekend following the international break, yet another story of fan harassment had broken.

CommonSpace exclusively released the voice clip within which a police officer allegedly attempted to bully and abuse a young supporter making his way home from a match.

When the young fan had the temerity to ask the officer why he had opted to stop him, he was bluntly told: "Because I * can."

The clip gets considerably worse as it goes on.

"I will * ruin your life," barks the man charged with protecting our communities. What is worse is that once the recording had finished, the officer then allegedly attempted to confiscate the young man's phone and attain his password, knowing fine well he had been caught.

https://soundcloud.com/david-common/10-44-50pm

Such is the lack of trust in our police force, the young man does not wish to pursue an official complaint for fear of reprisal. The whole episode captures just how poisonous the relationship between football fans and the police has become.

What is even worse is that this incident does not exist in isolation. It is part of a pattern of harassment and intimidation of football fans which can ultimately be traced back to the introduction of the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Act in 2012. Police have become so emboldened by the extraordinary powers granted to them by the SNP that they feel confident enough to consistently harass fans without cause.

One video clip released recently showed young fans being stopped by the police and having a banner protesting the Act being taken from them. The video is clear as day. The officers approach the boys and one then lifts the banner out of a young fan's arms. Extraordinarily, the police stated that they did not 'confiscate' this banner but merely 'found' it. In this instance, they found it in the arms of its owner.

Other footage released by the BBC earlier this month showed a group of young fans being detained, filmed, harassed, interrogated and 'kettled' before being released prior to a match at Celtic Park.

[ame]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E9qHutfRP5M[/ame]

This comes at a time when Police Scotland have apparently ditched their non-consensual stop and search procedures. It appears that these officers did not get the memo.

These recent incidents have re-ignited the debate around policing at football and the legislation which underpins it. In each of these events, not a single fan committed a crime or is alleged to have done so. And this is the crux of the matter.

Under the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act fans are automatically viewed as a threat to society. All of the very worst of the anti-working class stereotypes are often trotted out in the media about football supporters. All fans are potential thugs, drunks and bigots.

When Celtic played Rangers in February's league cup semi final at Hampden, the match passed almost without incident. The large scale disorder that so many had predicted had not come to be. Yet rather than note the fans' responsible behaviour as being the reason for this, the Scottish Sun's headline the next day still denigrated the law abiding supporters who had turned out at Hampden as it read 'Cops 1 - Yobs 0'.

This assumption that fans cannot be trusted to behave has been codified into law by the Scottish Government. Football fans need to have their own law which does not apply to the rest of society to keep them in line.

Football fans cannot be allowed to be offended, less they react violently. Football fans cannot be given the opportunity to express political opinion, less they abuse that right.



When Celtic played Rangers in February's league cup semi final at Hampden, the match passed almost without incident. The large scale disorder that so many had predicted had not come to be. Yet rather than note the fans' responsible behaviour as being the reason for this, the Scottish Sun's headline the next day still denigrated the law abiding supporters who had turned out at Hampden as it read 'Cops 1 - Yobs 0'.

This assumption that fans cannot be trusted to behave has been codified into law by the Scottish Government. Football fans need to have their own law which does not apply to the rest of society to keep them in line.


We need legislation which inhibits all of these things and specially trained officers to follow fans' movements, film them in stadiums, and stop them for interrogation whenever they see fit, even when there is no evidence to suggest that anything illegal has or will take place.

Is it any wonder that the police feel that they can treat fans like criminals with impunity?
This narrative is dangerous, the legislation is discriminatory and the policing tactics which have been used are abhorrent. None of these things are conducive to a positive environment at football nor are they symptomatic of a healthy and tolerant society.

This is not merely an issue which affects football supporters but anyone who cares about civil liberties. It is not anti-sectarian legislation but an attack on freedom of expression, which affects us all.

And if we wish to prevent the police from ruining the lives of fans and our national game along with it, we need to all call on the SNP to repeal this law to begin the process of fixing the mess which they have created.

 

That sound clip is shocking. Not surprising of course, which makes it even worse.

Fair play to these young lads for knowing their stuff and grabbing recordings etc. The clip from the supermarket car park and this now too. Given recent events puts this stupid Bill into perspective even more and shows the waste of time and resources it is.

 

This.

 

Some at the game last night At st Johnstone so it isn't just happening with us they're recording everywhere. Maybe just a cover up to aim it at us and I'm sure there is no such level as harassment with any other team that is seen in that video absoloutley disputing

It's actually bullying

 

Deadline is tomorrow at 5PM if you want to get in the section for this

1) Client Ref, Name and a contact number/email in the notes.
2) Yes, aslong as you send all client codes with group payment
3) make sure you send it as friends and family

Side Note: Make sure you specify what type of ticket each code is for

 

Video of the attack on the Hoops Bar.

https://streamable.com/ssmr

Seems a lot of the troops wanted to get out and help those stuck outside but the manager kept the door locked.

Can't blame him for that though.

Scummy bastarding Ajax *.

 

Anyone watching that video look out for the lad with the disability stick , he better hope the benefit office cant track him down :smiley-laughing002:

 

Not sure if im going to get shot down here , but i found that hard to watch.

Tims outside getting battered and the lads on the door stopping the lads inside feom getting out to help.

Or maybe i am picking it up wrong.

 

That's what it looked like to me mate.

Like I said though, it's a tricky one. The guy maybe felt he had a duty to his patrons I don't know.

Could have some kids in there as well, I know some of the bars let them sit in the corner with a cola or something.

More chance of there being kids outside though.

Tricky.

 

They make rangers fans look like saints

 

Poor show locking the doors and leaving them outside.

If every * piled out the pub the Ajax * might have bolted.

 

They really don't. Have you seen their Manchester adventure?

There was also huns there in that video as well, came from the Crimson Star in Bridgeton by all accounts.

Where was the * polis though? No problem being in the Gallowgate when there is some teenage Celtic fans to kettle as they walk peacefully to the match, but nowhere to be seen when actual trouble - trouble they must have known was a huge possibility - kicks off.

 

Only if the lads got out of that door and showed them * not to go picking on normal scarfers !!!

 

I get what you mean it looks like the people who got out where jumping out the side door though I think the bouncers all be it in my opinion should have let whoever out to get at them where keeping the ones in the pub safe

 

i was at the wolfe tones last friday and the place was swarming with police, anybody tell me were they are for this ?? scum on both sides, police and ajax fans.