Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

No it's utter bullshit as you'll see from my previous posts.

I was just taking the bit from what you were saying in regards to why football fans. Nothing to do with the bill..

 

What I mean is, there isn't a huge problem with football fans in this country, nothing that requires a special law designed just for them.

There was laws in place to deal with racist twats, bigoted fools and plastic hardmen who want to slap each other about.

 

Why do you think the SNP are 'targeting' football fans then? It makes little sense what your proposing imo. The stereotypical football fan particularly from Glasgow is exactly the sort of voter the SNP want to attract... working-class, urban, from more deprived areas, more likely to support indy than the silver spoon Bishopbriggs types and the faux English in our capital. They've been very successful in attracting this demographic too seen as all MP's for Glasgow are now SNP...

Other sports are important in this country but none compare to football.

 

I've not got a * scooby. You seem to support the bill so why do you support it?

Why did you put 'targeting' in quotes? Is the Offensive Behaviour at the FOOTBALL Bill not just targeting football fans?

 

There were a number of polls done at the time of the referendum and for the General Election showing the support for each political party amongst football fans. I won't post the link because I already know you don't like the source :icon_mrgreen:

2/3 of Celtic fans support the SNP, almost half of huns do to. That surprised me tbf.

 

Thanks McGuire, Jozo and Crow

It's a great banner.

 

So like the traditional Celtic supporter or the sort of people in the Green Brigade or like the majority on here? How's that going then ?

The SNP do not give a * about these people and never will.

 

I would imagine for a lot of them the SNP are the means to an end.

Indepndence might be our only chance to finally get rid of the tories once and for all.

 

Do they ? Nobody has ever asked me if I do ?

 

I support the premise of the bill. There is a problem in Scotland with eh... Offensive behaviour at football and it should be addressed. The same problems can't be found at other sporting events.

The problem with it imo is how it's implemented by the police. The Hamilton incident for example is just them using bully boy tactics and I hope the officers were reported.

 

2/3 of fans polled then :smiley-laughing002:

I'm assuming you live in England so it doesn't affect you anyway.

 

Does when I go to Celtic games. :smiley-laughing002:

 

Really well actually. I live in what's described as the most deprived area in Scotland, 2 miles away from Celtic Park and my area voted 58% for the SNP and had the biggest vote swing in British history...

So aye quite well.

 

OK so in your world it is going well but why is this not replicated on here ( you are a lone dissenting voice in here) amongst the people I meet at the games or amongst people like the Green Brigade ?

 

I don't know haha. I do know on other Celtic forums, one in particular, my point of view is shared by the majority.

I'm just assuming here, might be wrong but I'd guess the people you go to games with are the Irish community in England and are much less likely to sympathise with anything to do with the SNP. Their politics are driven by Irish republicanism, nothing wrong with that of course, and their still suspicious of Scottishness because of how the community were treated here in decades gone by...

 

What one would that be then?

Even KDS are against the bill.

 

I don't agree with the this. There are lots of problems at football in Scotland but offensive behaviour is a stupid category to use for a law. Firstly it is so subjective that it opens the door to repressing legitimate political expression (as we have seen!) and secondly offending someone per se should never be a crime. It is true that many things which should be crimes (such as bigotry, racism, etc) are also offensive, but pretty much anything is offensive to someone, including democracy, homosexuality and women in the workplace.

 

Great banner as usual, spot on too.

 

Credit where credit is due. I know this is going to sound condescending but if all your posts acknowledged the diversity of Celtic supporters we wouldn't disagree so much.