Lennon Out

Not outwith the budget but the promised every penny that we earn will be put into the team.

£10million McGeady money is still to be spent. It won't be near all of it but enough to get a quality defender I think.

 

I don't think it's a case of spending more money, I think it's a case of spending wiser.

Rangers team isn't packed with £4-5million players but when it comes to playing as a unit they put us to shame. We pay more wages than they do so there is no reason for that to continue to be the case. We either spend our money better or get ourselves a manager capable of building a proper team on the budget we can afford.

 

How I miss the days of signings like Thommo, Sutton, Hartson, Lennon etc, took those days for granted I did.

 

It's depressing, especially after watchin. The larsson DVD mate.

 

mines on the way and i almost dread watching it. need a considerable amount of time between watchin it and the next game cause it's a complete let down

 

Yes but spending money that we have on proven quality makes that task much easier.

 

Of course it does. But how many of Neil Lennon's signings would you say are proven quality? It's hard to argue that any of his signings were proven quality(if by quality you mean guys like Hartson, Larsson etc). I'm not just picking on Neil Lennon by saying that because you could say the same about Tony Mowbray's signings too.

It's not that easy for us to lure proven quality players anymore unfortunately.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the huns first eleven cost a lot more than ours has, man for man that is? they have kept that unit together for a few years now but hopefully they should fall apart after this season.
i'm not even sure if we pay more in wages for our core players than they do. anyway that's irrelevant, we havent won anything since we started downsizing. when you think lawell sold an important player a few years back against the wishes of our management for business reasons and yet the skint huns could afford him. we have paid for that alright.
you're right what we need is a management team capable of putting together a squad capable of winning titles. I think Lennon will do just that.
It's just a pity he's taken charge when things are tight financially and many of the Celtic support are deserting the ranks for one reason or another.

 

to be fair, we aren't waving around the sort of money that was available when we went after hartson, sutton, balde, lennon himself. this is a shoe string budget and you've got a much higher likelihood of coming up with duds when you're only able to spend 2-3 mil on a player rather than 6-8. the gulf in class between those two figures is enormous. and then to say we didn't even spend a 1mil in the summer window to sure up the defending? is it any wonder we are where we are? it's not a new phenomenon, this soft central defending. it's time to address it as though it's a priority

 

Something very interesting about us and them taken from the generally reliable transfermarket.de website -


(All prices in Euros)

Although they have a small squad, they are considered to have superior players, or at least higher valued players.

Their quality is concentrated heavily on that first 15 or so players. Their team is more settled and more experienced. They have a vastly more experienced manager, and although have supposedly a higher valued team, they pay much less wages.

We have a team with a lot of potential but our playing staff turnover is way too high. I agree with your second point though - we need a manager who can first and foremost get results in the here and now. With our focus on youth we've seemingly taken our eye off the ball and our main 11 is suffering.

 

Absolutely. It's been a problem for at least 18 months now. You could even argue it's been a problem for as long as 4 seasons because McManus - Caldwell were never a great partnership either imo.

The fact that it's been a problem for so long yet still hasn't been fixed is highly frustrating.

 

My feelings exactly mate, Lennon is a absolute legend in my eyes i've even got 1 Neil Lennon on the back of my hoops and I started the thread to. It's nothing personal with Lennon, there's nothing more I would love to see than him with the trophy at the end of the season it's just seeming more and more unrealistic as the weeks go by.

His inexperience and tactical knowledge in the job is showing big time and it's clear for all to see. I do hope this mini break has done us good because we will be in crisis if we fail to beat Killie at the weekend (it's unthinkable to be honest) and the pressure will be on Lennon big time and our season will effectively be over before it's really got started.

 

the way i see it is we have had problems up front for ages prior to lennon taking over and to be fair he has made us a goalscoring team again and looks like that problem may have been fixed ,now we are on to january transfer window so he should be setting his stall out to fix the defense so give the man a full season in charge before making these kinda threads , rome was not built in a day

 

Great post and think that confirms what a lot of fans have been saying since even WGS became manager . We have been buying quantity NOT quality and unfortunately neil seems to be going down the same road. To see this in black and white is a big eyeopener. We need to wisen up in the transfer market . Wonder what PL would think of this if he seen it. I said months ago that I would have been happy if Neil had brought in quality players at the back last summer and left it at that and see how we got on in the first half of season . Im not a big fan of bringing in loads of new faces all the time as I dont think long term it ever works out. Small quality changes required over a period of time!

 

The problem is I doubt there is actually any quality players in the SPL.

How the * we going to bring it in then?

 

you cant be serious? do you honestly doubt for one second lawell isnt fully aware of this?
the current phase of the downsizing of celtic began with the sale of miller and has continued unabated to this present day. it's as clear as day celtic's policy is to operate within a strict budgetary fiscal plan which wont be deriavated from come what may. the long term stategy of buying and investing in project type players wont pay dividends in terms of titles until next season. meanwhile short term losses in terms of hun winning titles, whilst an inconvenience, does not unduly cause the plc concern. the losses are sustainable and in the not too distant future domination of the huns is a fait d'accompli.
der hun is basking in short term glory due to their uncanny ability to nose dive into debt in order to bring some success in an otherwise dreadfull era for them. it wont last much longer. our plc are no doubt fully aware of this.
we've stolen a march on the huns in terms of investing for the future. unless a white knight comes to their rescue, and whatever fanciful delusions of grandeur der hun has whyte's no it, der hun will take long time to put in place a similar strategy and even longer before any dividends bear fruit. take my word for it, just sit back and enjoy watching the rats jump ship. Smiths no daft. he can see what's coming alright.
in saying all that lawell's still a caent for making us suffer these past three years but if this all comes to pass, I for one am in no doubt whatsoever that it shall be done, he'll come up smelling of roses and be hailed as a messiah. mark my words lawell and reids health will be toasted for generations to come. no wonder they both look so smug even in the present circumstances.

 

Barmy question.

Lennon, while still a bit 'wet behind the ears' in managerial terms, has shown potential as a manager so far.
He took a team that badly underachieved under Mowbray and won 8 League games in a row.
While he has failed in the big tests thus far, he seems to have the players' backing - and some of the football earlier in the season was very encouraging.
Injuries haven't helped him, as we have been unable to field a properly settled side. But I think he has brouht in some decent players (Murphy aside) and I am very happy for Lenny to be in the hotseat at Paradise.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

What a post, all conjecture, no facts to back this up, they will start to panic when the attendance gets worse and if those scum get more money from the buyout

 

Yes Rome was not built in a day but Rome was a global superpower, complete supremacy, Celtic is a troubled farming estate on the borders of Hadrians wall...

There is time to fix the problem, the problem is obvious its decrease the deadwood by 5/6 players and only bring in 1/2 quality players, a CB and GK.

 

I respect your opinion Markybhoy but plain and simple Lenny has a knew team and is in his 1st big managerial job,but he has never struggled with pressure as a player and i dont think he will as a manager.I have every confidence we will come good.
As for having a more experienced back-room would have defo had helped him and thats the reason iv said earlier in this thread an old head perhaps not even named giving Lenny some advice is no bad thing.
It,s not even Xmas yet and we want to get rid of a new manager?That i think is crazy,after all rankers might have a team but they have f all squad.One or two injuries and i guarantee you will see Celtic take control,and remember lets hope they have a run in the Europa to pile there games up even more.Thats when we will see the fight off Lennon and Celtic FC and the demise of the scum.Please heed my words,iv saw it happen on more than 1 occasion from either side in my lifetime as a Celtic supporter.Hail Hail mateWorry not,it will come good,elect has spoken/lol