When USA collapses

You are actually crazy aren't you?

Are you an avid conspiract reader?

Well said that man.

It would boggle one persons mind to even think of America collapsing.

It's not feasiable or possible, it's a country that is needed whether people like it or not it's needed more than most people realise.

 

It is possible What If US Collapses? Soviet Collapse Lessons Every American Needs To Know | MadConomist.com i think this shows pretty well that theres a fair chance of it happening

 

militarily america has never been stronger. this isn't even the first real estate bubble in my lifetime and isn't as bad as the depression so you are wrong there too. it's not the worst economic time in american history. china is growing because of its access to natural resources and cheap labor. however, it's currency is pegged to the dollar and it has all of the american debt so if the us goes down, they go down as well. it's in chinas best interest to make sure america stays prosperous because if it doesn't the chinese regime will fall.

Obama is spending money to get the country back on track economically. The bulk of the current American debt was built up by George Bush while he was avenging his father by invading Iraq. So blaming Obama for spending money also shows you don't know what you're talking about.

Iran, North Korea and Syria are going to compete with America militarily? You're on LSD m8.

if america falls, china won't be numero uno m8 and it'll be back to the stone ages for all of us.

more * from somebody without a clue. not even the worst recession in my lifetime and america will be back to full strength within two years, not on it's knees.

where will these countries trade, where they aren't currently trading, in order to make up for the emptiness that will be left after the american collapse? which countries would fill in the gap by increasing the amount that they'd trade with the Latin America, Europe, China? Is Africa going to be the next boom in world commerce? Give your head a shake

 

dont really consider the US an empire in the way the roman or the britsh empire were. The US influence has been largely tv and fast food, and while those two are at best comforting, they arent the kind of contributions and knowledge the romans, french, british, greeks, or so many other empires left to the world.

When its all said and done, what will be the US big legacies to history? its a largely uncultured country with lovely people for the most part, but not exactly great artists, thinkers or writers. For a country of 300 millions with all the money in the world, and all the freedoms and facilities they've had, its shocking the little number of true artists and great men they've produced. If you were to make a list of the greatest painters, artists, writers, philosophers, how many would be americans?

I think their largest contribution has to be popular culture, and particularly black america. Jazz, soul, and movies. Beyond that, I dont see too much of America remaining in history. In the scope of time, the american empire will only occupy a couple of lines next to truly greater empires

 

the us's legacy will be the blood it has spilled, the nations it has ruined and the lives it has destroyed

 

my mothers Side of my family lives in Georgia and are huge libritarians and are in the tea party but they would never dream of betraying the us. Even in the deepest Recesses of the south there is not enough support for secession

 

You forget that america has only been around less than 250 years anyone who thinks it will cease to be anytime soon is living in fantasy land

 

Your living in fantasy land mate there is no proof too point towards the collapse of the us

 

no, of course I think it'll keep existing and hopefully it does, its a country I like, but not as an empire, not as a source of lightning or inspiration for the world, thats not what the US is best suited for. The worst trait some americans have is their illiterate arrogance, you know the type, the texan tycoon/marine who mixes up chinese with japanese, english with aussies and so forth. When the US gets down a notch because of international economic dynamics, this type of ugly american will be less prevalent and frankly the US will be a better place for it.

Also theres a lot of hypocrisy in the US and how you perceive yourselves that I hope its dispelled in time, like the US helping the world for altruistic reasons when we all know america doesnt move their arm if there isnt something big to gain, in material terms.

 

a few great american writers from the 20th century alone
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Hemmingway
Ezra Pound
Steinbeck
Harper Lee
Flannery O'Connor
William Faulkner
Toni morrison
Cormac McCarthy
T.S. Elliot

not too much that the US is the film epicenter of the world churning out (along with the common movies made for simple entertainment) numerous films that can genuinely stand on their own as pieces of literature (for example, Forest Gump).

 

those writers arent amongst the very best in history, in some cases in fact they arent good at all (hemingway for instance, ridiculously overrated because of his colourful life) not with the shakespeares, Dantes, molieres, victor Hugos, Dostoyevski, cervantes, even latinamerica, an equally young group of countries, with far less resources, have produced better writers like garcia marquez.

What important artistic movement has started in the US or had its epicentre? when you consider who is the best artist in the 20th century, theres really no american to put alongside the Picasso, Ernst, Camus, Stravinsky.

Im sorry but Forest gump its a mediocre hollywood film, to even mention it along serious artistic representations devalues your whole point. Having said that, and although most of hollywood great directors were half european (lubitsch, hitchcock, dieterle, vidor, even ford was half irish), I reckon cinema is one of the few rightful calls you have to posterity. I believe Orson Welles is the only true great artist the US has produced alongside Edgar Allan Poe. Your painters, excuse my language, are absolute *, your writers producers of a few memorable quotes but not a really serious body of work compared to almost any other european country. I suppose you have Lloyd Wright, but im not crazy about him. What are the great architectural wonders the US has produced? the best youve done are the skyscrappers, and the asian do it a lot better stylistically than you do

Like I said, for a country of the means and riches of the US, you've produced very little in humanistic terms. I think in a century, probably more people will remember the simpsons than your most famous painter, who i supposed is the tedious Pollock

 

* *, I just read that post above and Im sounding like a thundercunt, apologies to the americans, I do think some of their achievements are underwhelming compared to some other true empires, and I take exception with them calling themselves a great empire, but I still think they've been, for the most part, a force for good, with plenty of exceptions, but generally done more good than bad.

Its true though, that you arent artistic or deep thinkers, but then again neither I am, so who I am to judge? and you have very sexy women, something we severely lack in britain, or just in england to not upset more people.

Like my father says, If I were a diplomat the world would end in a day.

 

Was a little strong to be fair, I stand by the fact it's a great country. That's from a Scot. Whether people like the American way or not the world would be in a lot worse state than it is now if the Americans weren't here.

The fact that Britain pillaged half the world we have no right at all to question anything the Americans have done or do.

Anything the Americas have done is a drop in the ocean compared to Britains past rule.

 

Britain never used atomic weapons to decimate civilian population centers.

 

Not for long!!!

 

The Japanese weren't going to surrender. The option was either drop the bombs or invade Japan. The estimates of American deaths were at least 1 million. The battle plans figured that the initial invading division wouldn't exist past the first few days. If it was between that and using the two bombs, I'll use them 100 times out of 100.

 

I think that there legacy will be the technology they have discovered and funded.

People like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. The technological advances through there military has been astounding.

Inventors like Thomas Eddison gave a lot to the world through starting a base for scientific advances.

I think the Americans will be remembered on a more practical level than philosiphical.

Which may be given more to the world than anybody before them.

 

There were other options. Firstly - Japan was essentially broken as a nation anyway.

Secondly, IMO the bombs were nothing to do with US troops and everything to do with showing Stalin who was boss.

Thirdly - disregarding the first two points - were 2 bombs, in the middle of huge population centers really necessary?

 

The thing about Japan is they weren't looking to surrender at all, they wouldn't have at any point.

It is the only single nation in history that looked upon going into battle as they were supposed to take down as many enemies as possible and die for the emporer while doing so.

It needed something on the scale of the bombs to get them to surrender.

Think about it, they knew what America could do to them after the first bomb and it still took the second bomb three days later for them to surrender.

 

yeah because one million us soldiers are far more important than millions upon millions of foreigners not to mention the birth defects and disease that lasts to this day. America, America uber Alles!!