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Poppy Thread.

Discussion in 'TalkCeltic Pub' started by alsybhoy, Nov 8, 2010.

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  1. TAB

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    I agree with most of that post Danni but that part in bold is the very reason the poppy shouldn't be on the Celtic strip, it has absolutely nothing to do with football.

    If some Celtic fans don't want the Green Brigades or other Celtic fans opinions on the poppies aired at Celtic Park, then we should really be pushing Celtic not to have the poppies on the strip at all.

    The opinions are only aired at Celtic Park because the poppies are wrongly on the Celtic strip, I know it doesn't make it right but it's true.

    Every single player and anyone who is involved with Celtic, including the Celtic board, can show their support by wearing the poppy if they want to, there's no need for it on the strip.

    Equally, any of them can choose not to but that's not the case when the poppy is on the strip.
     
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    There are a part of our support who bring us down to the level of the huns .
     
  3. Les.

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    I think that would be the way to sort this mess out.

    Its been blown out of proportion, no one is being told to wear it. The club wouldn't force a player to wear it and who even knows if any of the players object to it?
     
  4. alsybhoy

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    hows it shame? perhaps they shouldnt have done this? but they did. its freedom of protest and speech to which if i remember is not a crime.
     
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    aye its on the celtic website all involved to be banned from cp.
     
  6. PaulM1888 Moderator Moderator

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    Ruining cities? Racial slurs? Destroying everything we touch?

    It was ill advised to use the banner but in no way, shape or form are we anywhere near the level of the huns. For numerous reasons.
     
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    Just read that on the club's statement, that's absolutely out of order in my opinion.

    As I've previously said, if Celtic don't want the Green Brigades opinion on political stuff and the poppies, then why are Celtic going out their way to bring them into Celtic park, by having the poppy on the strip.

    There's no place for any of it at Celtic Park, that includes the poppies on the strip and the Green Brigades opinions being aired on a banner - both are just as wrong as each other.

    The club need to have a good look at themselves.
     
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    Add to the banner, last weeks songs about sticking poppies up your * aye * fantastic fans .
     
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    Well done Celtic on apologising the GB have once again brought unwanted attention to the club , if I'm being honest I reckon it was nothing more than an attention seeking oh look at us banner . They have been a breath of fresh air in the stadium in creating an atmosphere but have went down in my estimations after this .
     
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    in my personal opinion i think everybody is entitled to their own opinions, i think the majority of the time the green brigade are amazing at Celtic park but I think weather its right or wrong the green brigade would have known this would have caused controversy. Celtic Park in my eyes is to watch Celtic FC play football and for us to cheer on our team, I think that protests aimed at the board, media etc etc etc should be left for other times .
     
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    lol i agree with the g.b but oviesly there is going to be lots of diffrent opinions on this touchy subject
     
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    I don't think the poppy should be forced on to anyone either, I believe the players should however be given the option as then it will purely be down to their own personal opinion and no-one would have the right to criticise their choice.

    What is annoying a lot of folk is that the GB is acting as though they represent the entire Celtic support which is obviously not the case.
     
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    Just heard on Sky News that Celtic will find the people involved and ban them for life.... ffs what ever happend to freedom of speech.
     
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    exactly!:38:
     
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    Would we support the British Army marching up and down Celtic Park at half time? Why not? As some have alluded to, we should be no different to any other British team. We should support the fallen heroes who have fought in hundreds of wars against our enemies....we should thank all those who fought in the Falklands, Iraq, Afganistan, Belize, India, Kenya.....etc etc etc.

    I'll tell you why not.....because we are an Irish club. Our own have suffered at the hands of the British Army. Why are we ashamed now? Politics is about life and how we live it. Celtic fans should not worry about causing offence. Who has the blood of millions on their hands...not us.
     
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    I can understand the views of some members of the Green Brigade, but they should not bring their opinions to Celtic Park. It's a football ground and not a place for politics. They should stick to getting behind the team. They're always the first to come out with "It doesn't matter, just get behind the team", they're being pretty hypocritical here. The display on Saturday was an absolute disgrace and is tarnishing what's left of the clubs good reputation and I fully support the clubs decision to ban those responsible.
     
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    I think the GB has scored a bit of an OG, with this one. They forced the club to distance themselves from this protest and from the GB, but if they had just left it at the display against the SFA would this not have made headlines?
    We have worn poppies on the hoops for the last couple of seasons, but not next year and no collections are being made for the sell of the poppies, so Celtic have listened to support's concerns. We are not alone in putting the poppy on the strips as a mark of respect to people who died for our freedom...
    They have also taken the pressure off the SFA and away from the good things they have done so far..
     
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    I don't think there even should be the choice, the club don't want political and poppy opinions, therefore shouldn't be providing poppies. There's just absolutely no place for any of it on a football strip and at Celtic Park.

    I do agree though, if there was going to be poppies, then every player should have the choice.

    Even if every player agreed to wear the poppy, the club should make it clear that it's through choice - that way, saving themselves from all these yearly debates.



    I agree that the Green Brigade need to be aware that banners they show and songs they sing are shown across the internet and it paints a picture of the whole Celtic support.

    However, every-one who knows anything about the Green Brigade, knows that the Green Brigade have their own sections and dish out their own tickets. Therefore any banners, song and displays aired in that section of the stadium aren't necessarily the views of everyone in the ground.

    As I said though, I agree - they have to be careful because outsiders build up a picture of the whole support due to how much coverage the GB are getting now.
     
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    It's because the banner is observed as offensive, and the club need to be seen as taking a stand against offensive behavior.

    You may say its not offensive, they are just voicing their opinion, but I am offended by it and that means that it is offensive.
     
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    We are a Scottish club with a proud Irish history and the poppy isn't an emblem of celebration, it's an emblem of rememberance. I agree it's been hi-jacked to an extent but at the end of the day it is still an emblem of rememberance.

    I've already stated that I don't think the poppy should be forced on to the players that still doesn't give the GB to use the club as a vehicle for expressing their personal opinion on the poppy and passing it off as the opinion of all Celtic fans.