Time to face facts

The thing is though that we desperately need the money from the CL and as it stands it looks a lot like the huns will get the full pot of CL cash.
We need this CL campaign wether it is a success or not!!

 

I understand what your saying bud & I also think we wouldn't get anywhere in Europe this season, but I thought we could've at least got to the second stage of qualifiers then get dumped out by spurs! A little bit of dignity.

 

I think if we think about things honestly and realistically, none of us really expected to go through to the group stages of the CL this season, not with a new inexperienced manager in charge and with many new signings to blend into a team. The result flattered Braga, it showed us up for what we are at this moment in time a team in transition with a new manager totally without any experience of managing in Europe. We will come good but it takes time.....We will concentrate on the domestic prizes this season and maybe next season we will be more prepared for European ties. Hail! Hail!

 

The team has a chance next week to restore any loss of dignity......Let's hope they can at least make a fist of it and play with some passion and pride.

 

Ye we do have a chance but I really cant see us scoring 4 and not conceding at all.
Braga are not dummies, they will be playing really defensively and make it extremely difficult to get a breakthough, I cant see us doing any better than 2-0
I hope I am wrong

 

Exactly what I'm thinking mate.

In Lenny we trust - give the man and the team a chance to gel properly before making rash judgements.

EDIT : Though in all honesty - we need to get SHOT of Mulgrew and fast - Hes atrocious and nowhere near the quality of player we need in our squad. He looked like he was way out of his depth.

 

Not qualifing gives the board the excuse they need to carry on the downsizing of cfc thatvwe have witnessed since mon left. Not qualifying for 2-3 years means that the downsizing process will now gain pace a d any chance of a major signing is gone we will continue to scrape around the bargain bin for signings and don't be surprised if any money that comes in for mcgeady / hinkel doesn't, get reinvested in the team with the party line being that because we failed to qualify the money will be goin to other areas of the business eg player wages

 

last nights result was not lennys fault , its the lack of foresight and investment from the board over 4 years , all the diddys we bought all the penny pinching , it came back to bite them on the * last year with shocking attendances even after keano signed , have til transfer deadline to sort it out r celtic will be in trouble , lets get the players lenny wants in * centre back , keeper, no proper leftback for the 4th year running for christ sake, then win the lge and build from there , ill sadly miss europe but we are not good enough simple as ,

 

Nearly everytime he got the ball he passed it to the ball boy? I think he is a decent enough player who probably/hopefully gets little bit better, but lack of experience and lack of time in the celtic team equalled in him having a seriously bad game .....worse than everyone else i reckon.

 

I'm not sticking up for Mulgrew because there was no need to hoof the ball as many times as he did but I genuinely think the officials killed his game very early on with the unwarranted yellow for time wasting. Putting him on a tightrope so early on especially with the extremely poor level of refereeing must have left him fearing another yellow for the least wee thing. We'll see better things from him in the SPL I'm sure.

 

Unfortunately i agree with everyword.

 

If Charlie Mulgrew is so weak mentally that he can't perform once he gets booked then he shouldn't be anywhere near Celtic Park. In my opinion he shouldn't be anywhere near Celtic Park anyway, he's not good enough.

 

id say even lennon knows europe isnt important for us right now. hence his lack of nerves. No manager would be lack of nerves if they actually cared about europe.

 

Surely we need Europe to bolster our finances, OK we are nowhere near as bad as them but no CL for the past couple of seasons is hitting the bank balance hard

 

Therein lies a problem though. Neil Lennon told us he wanted to bring 'men' to the club and players who had the right 'mentality'. There was precious little evidence of any 'men' in those bumblebee strips last night.

I can almost accept the lack of ability, because frankly that's where Celtic are as a team at the moment, but Celtic looked spineless last night. That is far harder for me to accept and it's one of the things Neil Lennon said he would put a stop to. He may yet put a stop to it but that was not a promising start last night.

 

We need Europe for the finances but I am fed up seeing my Team that I first sent to see in the early 60's, getting gubbed in Europe. Just because we have a History and support that is the envy of others doesn't mean we will brush aside the 'Bragas' of Europe, far from it. AT PRESENT WE ARE AVERAGE...NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
We buy players that don't cost us anything. We buy full backs that are OK going forward but cannot defend. We buy midfield players that have no experience of anything higher than the English Championship and then expect them to do the biz in their 1st competitive game, which is in the CL or Far Eastern midfield players that have a footballing brain but shirk at anything resembling a 50/50 challenge. We buy Strikers that have a poor goalscoring record and then we moan that they don't put the ball in the net and we leave our better players either at home or in their civies 'cos av got ah sare back'. We employ a Celtic Legend, with very little managerial experience at any level, who does not cost us anything other than his wages and expect him to turn the Team into all conquering from Day 1.
I have now come to the quick realisation that if TM had NL's bottle he would not have been sacked and we would all be smiling today, e.g. who was it who brought in, Hooiveld, Rogne, Thomson, Fortune, KI ? How do these players compare with those brought in by NL?

 

mmnnnn did lennon not buy mulgrew?

 

Depressing display.

The timidity was depressing last night. Braga, though no Euro giants, are skillful enough but nothing out of this world. A bit of character and force might have made a difference. The lack of it just encouraged Braga, and when the defence can always be counted on to rally round and pull itself into a complete shambles at crucial times, what hope have you got of salvaging the game?

Wee sirens start sounding in my head every time we concede a corner. I don't think it's my medication.