McGeady - STAY OR GO

I remember they were qouted in the paper saying that!

Thats saying he is the the same price range as the likes of Ashley Young etc... thats just complete and utter nonsense!

No way would Birmingham have offered that, and again, if he was an £11M player, not only Birmingham would have shown interest, they would have been clabboring at Celtics Door.

Can anyone honestly say, that boy is anywhere near the quality of Ashley Young, James Milner, Niko Krancjaer, Adam Johnstone etc etc.... he could not lace those boys boots!

McGeady is not in their league, If we get anywhere near £8M i will be absolutly amazed, amazed, and its not the EPL thats put that price on McGeady, it was the press.

£4-5M and Id be delighted.

 

Disagreements in the past as Neil Lennon and Aiden McGeady share passion for victory

Published on 3 Apr 2010

Michael Grant
NO doubt Neil Lennon and Aiden McGeady have their differences on plenty of issues, but on one thing they are clearly in agreement: good teams don’t just shrug their shoulders when they concede a goal.
An incident at East End Park remains a vivid image of what Celtic used to be about. It was a dark December day in 2006 and they had just conceded a goal to Dunfermline deep in stoppage time. Lennon lost the rag about it, blamed McGeady for sloppiness, and didn’t take it well when McGeady, just 20 at the time, answered back. Verbals continued and Lennon pushed McGeady on the chest. The next day’s newspaper headlines were taken care of.
In reality, of course, the flare-up said things about that side which were reassuring rather than worrying for Celtic. They were 2-0 up and cruising that afternoon and there was no time for the Dunfermline goal to be anything more than a consolation. One other pertinent fact: Celtic were 16 points clear at the top of the table. With players who care that much, a manager knows he is on solid ground.
Now Lennon is the manager, until the end of the season at least, and a few more characters with McGeady’s competitiveness would not go amiss for Celtic. “The one [fall-out] with me and Lenny is in the past,” said McGeady yesterday. “We clashed in the past over a goal that was given away in the last minute of a game we were winning 2-0. That shows the passion he has for the cause, and mine, too. I hate losing goals. I think it’s the worst thing in the game and so does Lenny. He was directing it at me, saying it was my fault. I gave my opinion back.
“It’s not a big deal. Sometimes passion can boil over. That’s the way football is. You can have fights and arguments and I’ve been in a few, not just with Lenny. Maybe it is me that’s the common denominator!
“The thing with Lenny is that he will tell you what he thinks of you. That’s good for players. I think we missed that in the past.”
Lennon said yesterday that in terms of the players he was “not their mate”. What’s more, the caretaker manager added: “I was not their mate when I played. They are a lot younger than me anyway. They had their own group when I was in the team. We did some things socially together, but when it came to training I was the boss, and they knew that.”
It doesn’t carry much weight when a player says his caretaker manager should get a job full-time – what else would you expect them to say? – and McGeady ducked the usual, easy answer when asked about Lennon’s suitability long-term.
“It’s hard to say what his strengths are so far, it’s his first job,” he observed. “But he’s been reserve coach and the boys like him. I’ve always had great respect for him as a player and as a man, so, hopefully, he takes it into management and has success. If he does, the sky is the limit.”
Training had been “more light-hearted” under Lennon than it was under Mowbray. “I’m not saying it was bad before, but it was more game-related. Lenny knows the boys were on a downer after the manager got sacked and training has been enjoyable. It’s been a breath of fresh air.
“Lenny is similar to the old manager in what he wants us to do, but maybe he doesn’t want us to be an out-and-out passing team like the old manager. First and foremost, he wants to win.”
No sooner had Mowbray arrived last summer than he began bathing McGeady with praise and repeatedly dismissed any suggestion that Celtic would accept any English Premier League club’s bid for the 23-year-old.
McGeady admitted he understood the decision to sack Mowbray, but he still had sympathy and understanding for him. “I liked the old manager. He was good for me because of the way he wanted to play. Maybe it was too focused on trying to play really, really good football and it wasn’t really suited [to what Celtic needed]. But I was sad to see him go.”
The 4-0 defeat to St Mirren turned out to be the full stop on Mowbray’s Celtic obituary. “It is not good for any manager to be sacked on the back of a bad result because they’ll always be remembered for it. But he has the right ideas about football and, in any other season, it might have gone well. He gave me a licence to come inside and be more of a creative force instead of being stuck on the wing, so that is something I am grateful for.”
Might McGeady soon follow Mowbray out of Celtic, albeit on his own terms? An £8m bid from Birmingham City was rejected during the January transfer window. As the Celtic player with the highest transfer value (on-loan Robbie Keane doesn’t count) McGeady will be inevitably linked with other clubs in the summer.
“I’m still contracted with Celtic,” he said. “I’ve said it before: if a team comes in with a bid and the club wants to accept it, that’s up to them. If not, I’m still a Celtic player.
“It’s not up to me. I’ve been playing up here for years. Because I have been here for so long and I’m getting older I’m maybe seen as more of a focal point of the team. Of course, I’d like to play in better leagues in the future. Everyone has those aspirations.”
In the meantime, simply playing in a better Celtic team will suffice. McGeady and Lennon can help push each other towards that.

It doesn't matter whether YOU think Aiden McGeady is in the same class as Ashley Young or Nico Krancjaer and it also doesn't matter whether YOU think he's worth £8million or not. Personally I doubt he's worth it either but the fact is there obviously are clubs down south who see Aiden McGeady in the £8million bracket. End of story.

 

Its an absolute fact that in January the transfer market is inflated.

His form will do nothing to keep that £8M interest.

So no matter what you say, Id bet that no team will bid that for him. And for me, its a sad enditement of the boy that only Alex McLiesh, a manager who was continually slated by the Celtic support for his managerial skills is the only ePL manager to show interest.

Why isnt the likes of Moyes, onliel, Redknap etc... making bids.... ???

And from your massivly highlighted statement above, who is actually saying that...?

So wether YOU think that What I say doesnt matter or not, i think that the poll, the lack of interest, and the actual manager who has shown interest should show YOU the type of player Mcgeady is, and what level he is rated at!

 

This is getting silly. We basically have the same opinion of McGeady and his worth as a player. What we're really arguing about here is whether another club will pay £8million for him. I believe they will and I think you are underestimating how much we could get for him.

Clearly it is a journalist who is saying in the article that we rejected an £8million bid for McGeady. Do you know for a fact that we didn't?

 

And do YOU know for a fact we did.... ???

The Scottish media are constantly slated on here, there and everywhere by the Celtic support, but when its good, we choose to use them as a back up for a debate, thinking all they say might be true.... !!!

What Im asking you is: (just off the top of my head - there are many more)

James Milner
Niko Kranjaer
Ashley Young
Adam Johnston

These boys are all the same age if not younger than McGeady, more pace, more physical, more ability than Aiden, all provan in the EPL!

These guys have went for between £2.5M to £11M

When you weigh it up, if you were a premiership manager, would you be willing to pay for a lad who is totally inconsistent, final ball is poor (even some who love him admit that ) doesnt score enough goals, fails to deliver continually against his sides biggest rivals, rarely shows up in Europe, is not as Physical or quick as these guys, and has never played week in week out against quality opposition.

Would you be willing to shell out £8M on this guy...!

So i do not think for a second Im underestimating what we will get for him!

Again, it says it all that a boss, the Celtic support barraged for years, is the only manager to show interest and back up some debaters posts....!

 

No I don't know for a FACT that we did reject an offer of £8million but you don't know for a FACT that we didn't. The Herald is normally a decent journalistic source so I'd be willing to bet that journalist knows more about what happened in January than either you or I and he says we did.

Look I'm not even going to bother debating Aiden McGeady's strengths and weaknesses as a player with you. What's the point? I see a lot of things in him that you obviously see as well. It's like arguing against yourself!

All it takes is 1 manager in the Premiership to value Aiden McGeady at £8million and that is what we will get for him. If that manager happens to be Alex McLeish then so be it. Who gives a flying *? If we get the £8million surely that's all that counts at the end of the day? Personally I think if we do sell Aiden McGeady in the next 18 months then that is the sort of fee we will be looking at. If you think it's only going to be half that then fair enough that's your opinion. I just don't agree with you.

 

I dont think theers a need to get narky mate, I was just quoting what you had said to me and debated against it, as obviously we both have different opinions.

I agree with you, it would be good to get even more, but its bad management for any single club to make that sort of bid for McGeady.

But again, its all about opinions, I think like a lot of the Celtic support, managers in England etc too, can see to many flaws in his games, and that makes him so frustrating at times, as he regularly fails to deliver.

I also feel that the basis of the support for McGeady on this thread has been paper thin, and not enough examples and proof have been enough to make me anywhere reconsider his strengths.

Massivly overrated by you and a few other, but as you say dude, all about opinions, and to be honest, i hope you are right, and hope we do geta good fee for him, as long as the cash is reinvested.

 

Sorry man I'm no getting narky with you if it came across that way then I apologise.

Listen mate, Aiden McGeady is not over-rated by me at all in a playing sense. I'm one of the people who has advocated selling the boy. I think he flatters to deceive and his final ball drives me to distraction at times.

Where we clearly differ is in our opinions on what transfer fee we could get for him. Sometimes transfer fees defy logic because some football managers see things in players that either aren't there or else us ordinary punters just don't see. I mean who would have ever believed Rangers would have got £9million for Alan Hutton? Yet they did.

It seems pretty clear that Alex McLeish rates Aiden McGeady very highly and so for that reason I think £8million is an attainable fee(particularly if McLeish ends up being the buyer).

 

There has been all sorts of transfers fee's thrown around in newspapers. I genuinely believe that it's very possible for someone to come in with a bid £8m or even above. You generally get more than a players worth in today's market and £8m, is definitely more than he's worth in my opinion.

However, if a manager buys Aiden McGeady for anything above £6m, I think they are making a huge mistake but one that could be beneficial to Celtic.

 

Now that celtic have * this season up in many ways but mostly by over spending on a new manager who was crap and a very good player that is a total waste of money i think we will look to take a offer on mcgobby....
Our books aint as healthy as they were and with big tony gone and no doubt wanting his pay off we are going to need the money....
£11 million....dont make me laugh.
£8million yeah right.
£5million or under is more like it.
Or the boards old fav.........undisclosed fee.

 

Hey man, no worries, my apologies too bud

Its a good debate and a great thread, i know it can get emotions running high on some of us ehh :icon_mrgreen:, but thats the great thing about football bud.

hope your ultimaty right though bud, and we do geta good price for him, take it easy mate

 

group hug?:huddle:

 

i honestly believe and hope that he will go for roundabout 7-8m in the summer down to england my only wish is that the money is put back in to the playing staff i.e new singings and not the board's fat pockets

 

why would we get rid of one of our best players. its not like we would get transfer money, or they would spend 10 million on someone else. we all seen the * they buy for 3/4 million