Celtic to play Scotland for JK

can you not rise above all this us and them stuff for one day? Its an ugly mindset and to constantly be thinking about this stuff is tragic. Remember that there will be Celtic players and ex-players in Scotland shirts, including JFK. Its his day and both sets of fans should be focussed on him and his enjoyment of it. People who are sitting thinking about club issues and huns and tims etc on a day like that would need help. I do not think this will be a serious game anyway. I wouldnt be surprised to see Dalgleish ain at some point. I think this game may be a test of matority for some of our support.

 

Unfortunately its the complete opposite, Gunt.

 

Scott Brown , Maloney,Caldwell,McManus, Robson to name a few in Celtic's recent past ,are all them corrupt cos basically thats what your saying ,you cannot mention rangers players in a squad and say its corrupt when there are also 5-6 Celtic players involved ,this game has nothing to do with the so called bent refs ,corrupt SFA its about honouring a guy that could have been a great for Celtic and Scotland and fair play to Kennedy for taken this on board,its about what he wants no-one else.

 

Hahahahahahahahaha this would be the last time Levein sees his players before august n then qualifiers are round the corner and you think he'd play Kenny Dagleish??? Hahahaha

so we've jus to ignore the booing of Irish players by Scotland supporters at every ground in Scotland? We've just to ignore the history between us and the SFA and we've just to ignore 5 or 6 huns including an alleged rapist playing in a benefit game?

Without getting all political and religious, we live in a small minded bigoted country where Catholics have been treated like 2nd class for centuries yet catholic people still want to support Scotland?? I just don't get that at all

 

Ireland is just a football team he played for using the daft granny rule wherebye a player with just one grandparent form a country can represent it. His nationality in any meaningful non-romantic sense is Scottish (i.e. the nation he was born in, the nation he was brought up in, the nation he lives).

 

Wow ,keep this on topic ,John Kennedy.

 

Maybe the youngst but there was an improvement for a while. I actually think the worst group are those who are banging on about Jinkys cap total 40 years on.

 

Clearly you don't understand the point I am making. I spoke of the corruption of the SFA so why are you talking about Maloney and Robson.

I refer to the people who run the SFA and who have held us back for decades. A guy of your age surely remembers the treatment of the Lisbon Lions, Jim Farry or how about the current Chief Exec? A guy who doesn't understand what part of "f*** the pope" is sectarian?
The corruption of the sfa employed referees? Dallas, mccurry, everyone of then this season??
Are we just to ignore years of pedjudice just because it's a good cause??

 

By this I assume you mean McCarthy and McGeady.. Do you actually believe that if they were really Irish and not Scots playing for that NT they would be have been booed across the country?

 

Was Neil Lennon Scottish too?

Singing "why don't you go home" is one of the most vile and racist chants heard at a football ground in many years yet you seem to think it's ok and you dare to question me because I refuse to be silent while racists are allowed to spit this venom? You should be ashamed of yourself

 

How do you explain Darren O'Dea and Robbie Keane getting the same treatment? This is a secterian wee nation no matter how much you put on it.

You cannot argue that historically in this country there has been extreme bias against Irish Catholic and those of Irish descent.

Back to the days of what school did you go to? The Jim Farry's of this world, it has got better in the last decade or so but the people who hold these beliefs will always be here. Their is an institutional bias against Irish in this country and you need to be a blind fool to not realise that.

That being said I support my country, I'm Scottish I love being Scottish for all the faults of some of the nations mindset.

It's about time something got organised for the big man. I've never felt worse for any player ever than I have for John Kennedy, robbed of a possible great career in what was supposed to be one of the proudest moments of said career.

Neil Lennon was hated for other reasons than just being Irish, he was a * on the pitch that's why I loved him.

The rest of your post I agree with the principal but you're on you're high horse there; no need to sound condescending.

 

And clearly you didnt understand my post when i said these * dont play for Scotland .

Listen if you feel that strongly about it dont go to it ,its Kennedys wish ,he could probaly have had Man Utd ,Liverpool and so and ensure a bumper crowd ,he might not get this due to the Scotland thing ,i see were your coming from but its done to him ,i have my reasons for not supporting Scotland and its along those lines of a guy of my age [cheeky bassa ] that i dont support them .

 

because some of us are not living in the past with a chip on our shoulder but are looking to the future. Thing are 500% better. One way you are absolutrly guaranteed to keep up the problems is to not support Scotland which after all is our country FFS. .

As for ignoring players, national team supporters always have to rise above club issues for every game. Fans have to cheer a bitter club rival striker if he scorers for them. Club and sectatarian divide issues should not even cross peoples minds in this game.

Last time I saw this sort of petty club stuff at an international funny enough was at a Scotland-Ireland friendly game in Dublin in a decade ago. I was shocked because despite a really good atmosphere 'we hate the English more than you' etc the Irish fans did spoil it once Scotland started winning and started booing all the Rangers players (I remember Neill McCann was one) in the Scotland team. There was also a group of young Dubliners singing IRA add-ons etc. I thought that was sad dragging in club issues, sectarian issues and politics into an international friendly.

 

The Scotland team is a branch of the SFA it all comes under the umbrella when I see Scotland play I just think SFA.

As I mentioned earlier it was stated on the radio this is unlikely to happen and that would probably be best solution all round. Although there may not be many people backing me on here there are many who do feel the same way and there is definet reasons to avoid taking this game.

Big John deserves his day but as I said in my 1st post there's a whole world of football clubs out there so let's go get someone better

 

This is supposed to be about John Kennedy.

 

Speak for yourself mate. You can't dismiss other peoples heritage.

I have roots from Donegal, Scotland and a lot from Austraila I'm interested in all of them and I like hearing about the history of my family and the hardships they've went through to get to where my family is today.

You may want to dismiss that but don't dare be arrogant enough to dismiss it in other people.

That is just ignorant.

EDIT: Another thing, not everybody who is a Celtic fan is Scottish.

 

I agree with this. Whatever peoples personal feelings do this to honour somebody who but for fate could've been a Celtic great.

Big John looked the real deal and it just makes you sick what that * done to his life.

 

It's not in the past though is it? It's happening now SFA employed referees have played a huge part in the Huns all but winning the league.

I agree bout the Scotland v Ireland game.

Ok let me throw in a hypothetical, a group of Celtic supporters boo McCulloch(testimonial or not - remember the booing of Liam Miller in jackies testimonial) some tartan army fans who are very bitter towards Celtic(there are plenty of them) take offense at this and then react. With one act by one
group, what should have been a day to honour john Kennedy is turned into a very ugly environment. Is that really neccessary?

 

We have plenty of our own (away support if full of them) who sing stuff that is certain to offend, clearly because they want to offend and get a rise. The same 'get on the ferry home' type attitude is also used by Irish republicans for Ulster prods who have the audacity to not have the same political views as them. That sort of idiocy is just part of the human condition ). I think as well as good people, the worst most extreme 5% of the Scottish population involve themselves in the Old Firm and football grounds are a dream come true for narrow minded * stirrers (we have plenty too in our away support) but people as a whole are nothing like as bad as the bigots.

 

Gunt, are you member of some political party?