silky football or results

So it's fine to call public sector workers * or whatever too because you pay their wages? Best fans in the world eh

 

Deluded.

In 10 years time check the Trophy stats for Mowbrays reign. Now it will tell you one of 2 things, either we won something or we didn't.

There will be no mention of 'Silky Football'. Which is balls anyway because its no different than it was under wgs.

 

Results is all that a team will be remembered for...

 

Smartest thing Ive read all week..............

 

We can certaimly have both in the SPL, if we don't play decent football then who will. A bit of tactical thinking is maybe required. 4-2 up with fifteen minutes to go and bringing on a Samaras for Keane instead of another midfielder/defender is *.

 

In the history books yes , but not to the people who witness the football..
When you aren't winning matches you need results first and foremost.. When you are winning then you can become fussy and complain about the quality of football..
When you aren't winning and the football is rubbish then change is needed..
The goodwill is slowly evaporating as results aren't coming , but I'd like to think fans will always appreciate when a manager is trying to play football the right way..

Maybe it's not a fair comparison as the hun were in the "results over style" buisness when Smith took over , while Martin O'Neils team already had a winning mentality through playing for goals and outscoring opposition by the 2002/2003 season but I think it would be like saying the huns UEFA cup final campaign is on a par to Celtic's UEFA cup campaign.. Both teams get papped out of the CL and then go on a run to the final.. To anyone who follows football they will see the huge difference in both campaigns though.. The huns bored their own fans along the way , how many 9 men behind the ball 0-0 performances followed by criticism did they recieve for their anti-football along the way.. The fact that a "past his best" Henrik Larsson scored more goals in the tournament that season than the huns did , paints it in the correct light.. On the build up to the huns final there was an outcry from huns across Scotland that the party carnival atmosphere laid on by councils or the general public doing it themsleves throughout Scottish towns and city's on the eve of Seville , was nowhere to be seen on the eve of Manchester.. They couldn't understand why the interest that was shown in Celtic by neutrals , wasn't replicated for their club.. For me that is a major difference between ours and their European runs , so when people same "Aye but it's the same , Celtic , Rangers UEFA cup final defeat , the same"... I'd rather tell them to think of it how they like , but to people who enjoy watching football , purely from a point of view of trying to win games and play good football , it couldn't have been further apart..

 

No it's not too much to ask for both.

Football is part of the entertainment business, we deserve to be treated to a good level of entertainment having paid so much for our season tickets.

We should also expect Celtic Football Club to supply a team worthy of our support given the money that the true fans have given them over many years, one example being the share issue under Mc Cann. Remember the Huns failed with a similar scheme under Murray, he ended up under-writing 90% of the shares himself, so much for Loyal to the end, never mind it will soon be the end.

Our directors have sold us short for years, we have been taken for granted by Dermot Desmond and Lawwell. Yes they invested during this January transfer window, but how much did it really cost them (Mac Donald 3.5 Mil. Caldwell 1.0 Mil, Robson 0.6 Mil, Fox 1.8 Mil = 6.9 Mil out) and then Hooiveld 1.5, Ki 2.0, Rassmussen 1.7 = 5.2 Mil In, so that gives us a surplus of 1.7 Mil to pay for Keane, Camara and Braffheid.

Remember our loan signing could disappear in May and we're left with several gaps to fill, surely it would have made more sense to get Ramis or St Ledger in as signings instead of these loan players.

 

Results. Definitely. As this forum goes to show, 90% of the fan base are happier with results. And I'm one of them.

 

Winning football first!!! then silky football can follow suit,lets face it,the football on show from celtic this season is nothing to write home about really. You can go back to both huns games and analyse them both,you can say we "battered" them but this actualy means jack * if you only pick one point out of six.
TM should be getting more out of his players at his disposal,no doubt about that,we need to take a reallty check and ask ourselves "do we deserve to be champions this season"?? i my opinion NOPE!

winning ugly and picking points up along the way wins leagues

 

I believe you can have both and believe we are a few players away from it, obviously a bit of time for it all to gel together far to much disruption this season, shame we couldnt get st Ledger and Ramis that would have made a big difference. Im not worried I cant believe the amount of toys out the pram this season, I think a couple of fans might need the harsh reality check that just because you are an old firm fan and pay money does not mean you are entiled to instant success, It doesnt always work like that, I get embarrased seeing so many people throwing scarves and season books around after a bad result, kind of like the big spoilt kid not getting the christmas present he wants.. I know im going to get slated for this post but this is just the way I see it, I love celtic but hate the impatient and sensationalism that comes with it, we are our own worst enemies sometimes, you need to stop reading crap newspapers and listening to phone ins as its infecting the rational part of your brain.. How many years did It take Walter smith to win a league since he came back, Rangers fans were wanting rid of him.. Man utd fans were wanting rid of Sir Alex too the knives were out for him, of course the fans new better, every fan is an expert. I bet If Brfheid had not handled the ball and Motherwell were not denied that goal we would all be sucking Mowbrays balls right now thats how fickle it is.. and what about mafs dissalowed goal against Rangers, what if that had been given.. so now were talking 6 extra points just because of wrong decisions, not looking so bad all of a sudden is it, and all with two center backs at the age of 18 and 19 and a completely disrupted squad torn apart in January and put together again.. what If that unfortunate injury did not happened to Hoiveld I dont think we would have lost the goal, he couldnt do anything about it.. these are the small margins in football, you cant blame luck all the time, but this time I think lady luck has * all over us and had a poo as well, hard to build any momentum in those circumstances ..

Ok I know I know, but its just my opinion, I think some of the attacking football going forward has been quite exciting actually, good to watch, more of a pacy counter attacking style

 

Results first, fancy football can come later.

 

I agree look at Arsenal when they were playing free flowing football and winning trophies. Not comparing us to Arsenal but they were a team that played attractive football and won trophies a few seasons ago. If you get the right mix of players then it is possible and I think thats what TM is building for.

 

i would be happy to see us play nice football at cp where the park is great for it but away games i would be happy just for the results

 

ment to say the result's should come with the good football at cp

 

Were in the spl, silky football wont get us anywhere on winter nights in mud heaps in motherwell and aberdeen, i want 11 big solid players fighting tooth and nail and drawing blood for the hoops.

 

Would like both but right now i'll take the results silky football can come later

 

empty seats

I take it you have not looked around the stadium and all the empty seats, as I can vouch for the vacant seat in the north stand.

 

you are right * is usefull :bbpd:

 

I hate it how it comes down to this results or silky football. I want both but Im a realist and throughout the season I want to watch good football but I understand that some games do need to be ground out. But if it comes to watching * week in week out having one or two shots on target every week but nicking a win give me silky football.

 

Oh come off it - you're implying that the great majority of the time, teams who play good football get beaten? That doesn't make any sense.

The teams who play the best football are more often than not very successful at the same time - Barca, Real, Man U etc.

It is possible to gain success by playing poor, negative, defensive football - Greece in the euros, Rangers in the UEFA Cup etc - but these cases are definitely the exception rather than the rule.