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Mogga clueless in Europe

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by gunt, Oct 1, 2009.

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  1. gunt

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    Got to say 4 defeats and 1 draw and 1 win is a very * Euro start. The worst I can remember of any Celtic manager. A home record of 2 defeats and 1 draw in 3 games must be the worst home record I can remember. I think Mogga has not the slightest clue tactically against even moderately decent teams.
     
  2. King Nicky

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    Only thing right on this page gunt, i agree with most of what you say but its still too early to expect so much all ready, its not his fault his players can't finish.
     
  4. Rossenspeil

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    Dropping Loovens was ridiculous, verified by Mick causing a goal inside 5 minutes that would have got him dogs abuse in the playground.

    Maloney substitution is beyond me as well.
     
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    Mcmanus played well, he should of booted it that one time, have to say not impressed with Moggas home record,making us look *, good we didnt lose though otherwise it would of been worst ever run in europe at CP
     
  6. patto

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    Its real life mate, its not world of warcraft, you can't take some energy potion.

    We also have a bigger game on sunday to think about.
     
  7. kennydal

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    Think people would have complained if he didnt go for it ,he played 4 out and out centre forwards for the last 10 mins ,it never worked but he tried.
     
  8. 30stm87

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    If Maloney's, McDonald's or Danny Fox's chance had have went in or even Gary Caldwell's chance would there even be a thread like this? Tis not the Managers fault we didnt put away our chances. N'Guemo & McGeady were tired, so Robson & McGinn was a good move, I would have brought Samaras off for Killen, Sammy was good tonight, but think he was tired near the end, but Mowbray wanted to go for 3 up top, whats wrong in that? Stupid to say that its the managers fault, its just 1 of those nights, we could have easily won that..
     
  9. patto

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    Exactly, KNEE * once again on here.
     
  10. gunt

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    Our home record in Europe against far better teams than these Europa clowns or Dynamo was superb under WGS and MON. Mogga is making a major * of it with many of the same players as WGS as well as some good additions like Fox and nGuemmo AND that is against a poorer average standard than we played in most of the previous 9 years (other than Arsenal). We got great home results against the cream of Europe over the last 3 years so what is happening all of a sudden??? I really am glad Mogga is not up against MIilan, Barcelona, Juventus etc or we would be seriously embarrised.
     
  11. Galactico.Bhoy

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    take out the word clueless replace it with inexperianced, there were a few managerial mistakes, but thats what happens when u appoint a manager without european experiance
     
  12. DanniGhirl

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    He played the strongest team available to him, I'm not happy with our European start under TM but to say he's clueless is a bit much.

    I was surprised that Maloney was taken off as I thought he played well, however, just like McGeady is often criticised for, his final ball just wasn't there tonight.

    McGeady was marked out of it, I don't think he was fully fit and he had ran out of steam so it was right to take him off.

    I wanted Robson to come on so that meant either Brown or N'Gumeo would have to come off.

    So I don't think his subs were that mad.
     
  13. Rossenspeil

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    Brown and Samaras were breathing out their arses as well, why take off our only player that actually looked like creating?
     
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    World of warcraft what you talking about, they are professional footballers. Its their job to play the full game, we needed to score maloney was involved in everything he should have stayed on.
     
  15. gerry_bhoy

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    Punching above our weight. He can only work with what hes got.

    We are not good enough for this level. Vienna would have finished the chances we had, and had they needed a goal (they were happy with the draw) believe me they would have got it.

    Bar a handful of players, we are a very average, and above all toothless side.

    Thats not to say we will be (in 2 years) once TM has created his own side.

    But for now, lets concentrate on our mickey mouse league.
     
  16. gunt

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    actually thought most of our midfield and attackers played well. Only McGeady was off the pace (maybe not fit). However, Mogga's team cannot defend and the defense is slow. His playing a high line is ignoring this real head in the sand style. WGS compensated for this by playing deeper and more defensively until later in the game which may have looked negative but was realistic. We could have been 3-0 down early in that game. Also why drop our only fast CB when they had fast forwards?
     
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    To be fair the guy has just taken over the job and only got a few new faces into place so its a bit early to get on his back. Our biggest probblem is not he aint got alot of european experience it is celtic do not have the money to buy the players needed to make a diff in europe and thats going to start to show rather badly over the next few years. I was a wgs fan aswell and his team didnt thump the big guns at celtic park,we were getting more and more luck to get any wins against them and if wgs was still in charge it wouldnt change much with our results. The flaw is not with you is in charge of the team its how much money celticmplc can give them to spend. The team did well tonight after 15mins and we just couldnt get the ball near there goal,and rangers will be the same...10 behind the ball and try and get us on the break and i think we will struggle to score.
     
  18. aaastiff

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    some daft celtic fans ont realise how good strachan was
     
  19. gunt

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    Yes but WGS squeezed a lot more success against a higher standard of European team with the same players. If anything Mogga has added a couple of good players WGS never had. I think Mogga is tactically niave and doesnt set us up to play us in a way that realistically accepts our limitations and makes plans to overcome them with clever tactics (defensive if needs be). He just seems to say 'lads go out and express yourselves' or something. Nah there is a lot of evidence that Mogga's ideals are not compatible with gaining success with the sort of players we can afford against even so-so European teams.
     
  20. faw cough Gold Member Gold Member

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    some daft celtic fans cant see how * he had us.