BRILLIANT

Merchandise doesn't bring in near enough to run a club the size of Celtic. The club has wages to pay all down the line from the cleaners to the manager. All this has to be taken into account when releasing money for players. The club is being run on a business footing and the manager has used some transfer money and maybe or maybe not he got the players he asked for. The thing is that the manager is new and maybe has seen things in some players that the previous manager didn't and brought in players only in the positions he felt needed strengthening, ie; the left back position. He has also brought in, albeit only on loan, a quality midfielder and bought a striker who I think will be a top class goalscorer once the team settles.
I think we have a better team than Rangers now and our priority has to be to win the SPL and gain entry into the CL next season on the easiest possible route. Lawwell has made our financial position stable so, unlike Rangers, we are able to take Champions' League ommission on the chin a bit, but if we go all out and spend, spend, spend and then, * forbid, we don't make the CL group stages next season then the club could well be up * creek without a paddle.

I can understand some fans being * off that we haven't bought a couple of 6m pound players, but we have got to spend according to our means and with very little TV revenue coming in for clubs in the SPL I don't see what else Mr Lawwell can do. That's just my opinion, but even the Dutch clubs get more cash than we do for TV and in football these days that is where clubs are making their millions south of the border. We just aren't able to compete with them for players.
We just have to make the best of what we have and give the team all the support we can to urge them on the the title.

Let's just hope that the new manager can motivate the troops we have and mold them into a winning unit and keep the players we need at the club happy to stay.

 

Spending £20M on players (would that figure incorporate their wages?) with the current size of our squad, and it's subsequent wage bill, is delusional.

 

I agree with you Tictical, but I know what the shooter guy means.

Look at Real Madrid and Valencia - massive debt, the difference is THEY can be fairly confident that debts not gonna be recalled under threat of horrendous doings and business gangrape. Celtic unfortunately are operating in Northern Europe, Germany, UK, France - debts will sink a club eventually if ignored.

So, while I see shooter's point, Ticman has the realist vote for me.

Lawwell can't afford to be a carefree spending playboy. If he was - we'd be *.

 

Celtic get what, £1 million if you get win the league . The team that finish bottom of the Premiership get round about £30 million.

We dont ever need to speculate to accumulate until big moneys comes into the Spl (which will never happen) or get into the Premiership.

A promoted Premier league can risk spending £20 million ,which they dont have, at the start of the season to stay in the league because they will break even if they stay up. Celtic cant risk spending £20 million to get too the later stages of the Champions league. Celtic would need to spend £30-40 od million to make the later stages year in year out and would we brake even? No.

 

people need to stop *
Thats all.....im out

 

The people "*" aren't saying "Where's Iniesta!?" They/we are annoyed we've been told there would be signings, we've had names bandied about, and it's more a case of.. we couldn't land a Mesenguez? The vast majority of critical/disgruntled fans are nowhere near as unreasonable as many protray us to be.

Anyway, looking forward to trashing Rangers and building something in the Europa League.

 

I find it ironic that people would make statements about how we need to scout for players all over the world and when we get the captain of the chinese national team for free, they * about how we couldn't sign anybody half way decent.

 

aye that just about sums it up mate.

 

Even a few of the lower half of the epl have spent very little this year, think most a them spent 6-7 mil, even liverpool and portsmouth took alot in by sellin players and have struggled to spend, so think we've just gotta be patient, imo the team should be good enough to win the league

 

Its the sad reality of the world of football atm and as has been said there plenty of teams who have spent very little or nothing at all and as for the names banded about thats all paper talk and being fair tm never said he was trying to sign anyone specifically

 

DM or defender. He's a utility player, usually DM.

Yes, he was picked by 442 as one of the best players in Championship for 2007.

No no no, we're not having any of that here. It's far more important that he's Chinese.

You must not have paid much attention. We've lost 12 players and brought in 6 -- 3 of whom will start quite often for us, and a 4th provides much needed backup to Boruc.

Yes, we should sack our "only" scout. Flawless logic.

Did he have anything to do with the EAFF disgrace?? I can't recall him playing a part but not sure.
Shhh. You can't judge him on any reason other than being Chinese. Also cheers from BS! :bbpd:

Judging a player you clearly haven't a clue about. Brilliant.

If this is how you really feel, and all you're interested in you'd probably being do yourself (and us) all a favor if you just went out and bought a ManShitty or RealCash strip.

Get a grip. 20m is ridiculous when the turnover is in the 70m region. Besides which, we have actually spent more than several EPL clubs in this period.







A lot of latent racism in this thread. I don't rate the player myself, but not because he's a "dirty unwashed *" -- which seems to be the overwhelming feeling from some of you.

 

So anyone not playing in the top of the epl we shouldnt sign....?

Did you know that you can have good player in bad teams....yes you really can!

Lets wait untill the guy plays for the club before we boo him eh.

 

thats one of the most ridiculous comments in this thread, and people who think this are morons.

look at Real Madrid from 2002 -2008. they had a team full of superstars, but failed to win anything, despite spending hundreds of millions of pounds/euros. does that mean they are a bad team? - no, it doesnt.

the exact same logic can be applied to this chinese lad. charlton got relegated, so does that mean he is a bad player? - no, it doesnt.

 

aye mate, exactly.

the perfect example being what happened to Leeds in 2001.

i just wonder what the people posting crap in this thread would be thinking if thats how we went.

also, look at it this way. if things arent looking good, then theres january to buy more players ffs. any transfer fee's thats left over from now will more than likely get carried over to the next, if not more. i doubt the board want a repeat of last year...

 

The guy could be a sensation! I'm not jumping for joy but i think we have enough talent to win this spl back & maybe have a wee run in europe, wait till the dust settles & the next window opens.

 

The problem is that people think for some reason that there ARE the following people out there champing at the bit to join us in the SPL:

1) A new CL level CB
2) A new CL level LB *achieved - Fox
3) A new CL level DM *achieved - N'Guemo
4) A new CL level creative-type
5) A new CL level forward *achieved - Fortuné
6) A new CL level striker

In the 09-10 campaign it's looking like we're going to spend £10m which by all means is a reasonable/good figure for Celtic's summer. There are some deluded individuals who think that the above 6 players at CL level will cost around that £10m mark, or on average say £1.6m per signing. I think they are insane.

Considering our spending power I think these initial 3 signings are a triumph. Arguably the players I've listed at 1), 4) and 6) are not essential, certainly not worth busting the bank over at this stage.

When are people going to realise that IF:

a player is good enough
is within our transfer budget
is willing to play in the SPL
is willing to (chances are) take a wage cut

Then the board will do their utmost to sign them. The chances are there are countless players over the summer who satisfied 2 or 3 out of the above 4 criteria but fell down at the last hurdle. Ross McCormack for example was probably unavailable for transfer. Hutzi and Tamas in the past weren't willing to play in the SPL or take a wage cut. This is outwith our control. I'm delighted with this window, just wish the depressing unrealistic muppets around here would calm themselves..

 

i agree completly mate.

i think ALOT of people on here are used to playing a * football manager game, sticking in a cheat for eleventeen-billion pounds and having any player in the world join them. sorry, thats why its a game - its not real. the more and more i read some comments on this website, i would say the majority of members must be under 18, like to wear celtic branded tracksuits every day of the week, and without-a-doubt paired with celtic argos jewellry

again, im happy with this transfer window. 5-6 players in, what more could anyone want? we could do with a few more, but hey, thats the nature of our game, not everybody wants to play for us, like you said. we could have done alot worse and brought in 1 player.

the bottom line is people are NEVER happy. every new season they expect more and more. lets not forget alot of people on here look back at strachan and see him as a complete failure, and that we will never win vs english sides because "mowbary is used to losing against them" ... this is what our support is made up of.

and i wish people would stop comparing us to the huns!! just look at their debt, combined with players in and players out. for sure their going to win 2 in a row because they brought some french winger in!!! - * off, celtic are clearly winning the title back this year, and if anybody doubts that, then they must be colourblind, lost in the wrong end of glasgow.

 

Give Zheng Zhi a break! I have not seen him play regularly, but from the times I have seen him play he has been very good. He is a versatile player as he can play in defence or midfield. Sure he isn't a superstar player that some of you are dreaming about, just give the guy a break, he has agreed to commit his service to Celtic, you should be thanking him and give him a decent chance before judging him. I am sure the reaction would had been somewhat different if he were Spanish or Italian.

Oh, and think of the popularity Celtic will gain in China! I've already been phoned up several times being asked to bring Celtic shirts back to China with me, Zheng Zhi is very popular especially in Liaoning province where I stay.

As for the Korean guy, I have never seen him play but have heard good things recently about him. Sounds like an exciting coup. Look forward for him in January.

 

Did our board agree to the ESPN deal, or it was imposed on us?

 

"I don't know what I find more laughable; the fact that Celtic cannot find £500,000 from their biscuit tin to sign a proven talent like John Spencer, or the fact that they then spent £300,000 on one of Dr. Jo's old pals, the unknown Lubomir Moravcik!"
(Hugh Keevins, Sunday Mail; Nov 1998)

Read this as an example and ask yourself how many unknown players have signed for us and become legends for the club the above quote from keevins who IS (despite some his exagerated points against Celtic) one of us. Read this, this is the attitude that quite a lot of people on here are taking so how can you dare complain about keevins when he is no different from you? The guy may come good, he may be a flop but for * sake give him a chance a least till we have seen him play in hoops a couple of times.