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We should sell Scott Brown...

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Tictical_Genius, Jul 6, 2009.

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  1. ConnellyBhoy

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    My view on this whole thread is if we sold Scott Brown we'd be committing midfield suicide.

    The huns would run over the top of us in any midfield battle without someone like Brown in there to kick back at them.

    We don't need to sell so we shouldn't sell.
     
  2. pHatRon67

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    Why is this thread still even open? To suggest we should sell one of the countries best midfielders is a joke.
     
  3. OC

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    What makes you say that? We have decent players now and if an offer of 7m or more comes, no question about whether accept it or refuse it. You're just one of many people who overrate him. And, from what I saw in this thread, there's not a good argument why he is our best midfielder or even best player.
     
  4. Rossenspeil

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    Have a word with the mods, maybe they'll close every thread when people dont agree with you :rolleyes:
     
  5. ConnellyBhoy

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    There's also not really one to say he isn't.
     
  6. OC

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    Oh. Name them, mate.
     
  7. MR T-im

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    We could create a thread about any one of celtics players and say we should sell them as it is hard to say why they are so important, and realistically we are not going to sell brown this window. Mowbray also thinks he is a good player or he would not be part of his plans and wanting him back for the moscow tie
     
  8. Tictical_Genius

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    So, having someone to "kick back at the huns" makes a player worth £7M or more? I would expect a £7M footballer to be able to do more than kick the opposition.
    Perhaps because in 13 pages no-one can come up with a reasoned reply as to why SB is worth £7M or more, all we have so far is he is energetic, determined, hard-working and aggressive. Some would argue that these are basic attributes that all professional footballers should have.

    Alternatively it could be because people like yourself, who are incapable of adding any reasoned contribution to the discussion, aren't moderators and can't close discussions you don't agree with. Thankfully.
    No vision, poor-to-mediocre tackler, poor passing into feet, poor passing into space, poor range of passing, poor goal scoring record, offers little at set pieces. How about that for starters?
    Yes, but your missing one criteria........the price tag. I haven't said he should be sold, end of, i've included a valuation (£1M lower than the one said to have been offered by Newcastle)
     
  9. MR T-im

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    He possesses great pace probably the quickest in the team. Very strong and has a great engine. he is a direct player which can split oposition midfield thus creating chances for our strikers. He is young so his passing can improve which is not as bad as you have made out, he has been at celtic for 2 seasons and a goals could still come. Barry scored 5 goals last season for villa and went for 12 mill. So offerinf alot at set pieces makes you a good player? What about Jan he offered alot at set pieces and was slaughtered last season by fans for his performance. Clearly you are delusional if you think scott brown is a bad player, I would like to know who you think is a better midfielder than Brown?
     
  10. nudge1086 Gold Member

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    if Celtic refused a £9 million bid (allegedley) just after signing him why would they accept less now? you have to remember he is still young and still adding to his game but the thing about broony is he is a box to box midfielder who sometimes takes it onto himself to drag the team upfield, sure he has things to work on and im sure TM will be on the case. my question in return to all of this is who would we replace him with because i cant think of anyone affordable who we could get
     
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    He adds balance to the midfield, he's our only real explosive CM.
     
  12. Tictical_Genius

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    Okay, he is athletic, is quite fast (we don't have a particularly pacey team, though I think McGeady & Maloney might pip him) and has stamina. Again, aren't these qualities you would expect from most professional footballers in their early twenties? Willo Flood showed these attributes today against Spurs, but is often seen as the runt of the Celtic litter.
    Only if he finds strikers with telling passes, a lot of work required in this area, his entire game seems to be focused on the couple of yards in front of himself.
    They could still come, but then again they might not, if they don't, offers around the £7M mark will probably dry up. Transfers for players between EPL clubs are crazy, and not really a reliable benchmark.
    Offering a threat at set pieces is another string to the bow of any player, and one that a manager might take into consideration when assessing two similar players. I'm glad you mentioned Big Jan, he had a terrible season last year, look what happened, he left for nowt, a year earlier Hamburg were said to be bidding £7M for him.
    I'm not saying he is terrible, he has certain qualities, I just think he is massively over-hyped and for me, any bid of £7M would be one that could'nt be turned down.
    Two reasons, firstly he had just signed a contract (5 years I think) which is now two years in, secondly, combine the loss of revenues from the collapse of the Setanta deal, the expiry of our association with Carling at the end of this season, and the credit crunch hitting fans disposable income and £7M looks good
    IMO, we have good combinations of central midfielders at the club already, however if we were to bring in fresh talent for central midfield I would look for goalscoring midfielders like Semir Stilic or Anas Sharbini (both have ratio's of around a goal every 3 games) or for some good entertainment (and goals) Yassine Chikhaoui.
     
  13. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    I'm sure I've already replied somewhere in this thread but £7million would be good money for Brown. He's valued at £7million because the current transfer market is inflated by EPL teams' money.
     
  14. echobassbhoy

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    So, having someone to "kick back at the huns" makes a player worth £7M or more? I would expect a £7M footballer to be able to do more than kick the opposition.

    Perhaps because in 13 pages no-one can come up with a reasoned reply as to why SB is worth £7M or more, all we have so far is he is energetic, determined, hard-working and aggressive. Some would argue that these are basic attributes that all professional footballers should have.

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    I think I gave a reasonable arguement. That was if Brown was sold you would then have to pay 5-6 mil to replace him, whcih the board would never do. Yes it would be hard to refuse 7 mil but if you weren't to get that to replace a player then why sell? Celtic FC are now, apparantly, a club that do not need to sell it's star assets anymore.

    (p.s. I've also got to agree that there is no need to get drawn into insulting fans over an opinion. Everyone on this site should be allowed to voice opinions without having to put up with neandertholic retorts.)
     
  15. hkbhoy

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    agreed. to sell him without having an adequate replacement would be ridiculous. While i agree he has faults i also believe he will improve so i dont want to see him sold
     
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    I wouldn't sell Scott Brown unless we got an offer of about 10 - 12 million. Why sell our best player and get mabey 3 average players back in return? I'd much rather sell our dead wood and bring in another striker than sell the player of the year.
     
  17. mmmikey

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    For a box to box midfielder as I've already said, these are the key aspects of his game that stands him out from the rest of the fodder - as I previously said the only person with a comparable energy and enthusiasm could be Wayne Rooney or Tevez. "Some would argue these are basic attributes all pros should have" - mate you could say that about anything.


    It seems to be you're taking great pleasure out of this thread in a kind of Emperors new cltohes kind of way. But the reason so many people are dismissing you / throwing abuse your way is because anyone with half a brain knows Scott Browns weak points. But also anyone with half a brain can see his immense contribution to the power of our midfield. He's also no shirker and isn't fazed by the big teams. The most important thing though is we can all see his immense potential - if TM can tighten up Browns final third play we will have simply an unbelievable player.

    So what would be the point of selling for £7m when under our current wage structure the maximum feasible replacement signing we can make is around the £4-5m transfer fee? By that logic alone we'd be signing someone inferior while also taking the risk of signing someone unproven to the demands and rigours of the Scottish game.

    Also as people have consistently pointed out - voted POTY by fellow professionals. I've also commented before - why sell your best players whatever the price? Fair enough if the players WANTS to go, or it's a ludicrous sum like £15m+ but if we want to compete in the CL then we need to keep the core players that are happy yet command high fees.
     
  18. Binnie_Bhoy

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    Scott Brown was listed as one of FIFA's players to watch in 2009 , he is obviously listed for a reason!! . . Yes his basic passing skills sometimes are not up to scratch but he is always in about the opposition making it difficult for them!! Senna was kept quite by Brown against Villareal and he is a great midfielder!! Scott Brown is still young and can improve like so many of our players have already under Mowbary!! He is a vital part of the team and needs to kept!!
     
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    I think the prospect of Brown working with Mowbray again is tantalising for all Celtic supporters.

    Having said that, I think his performances for us so far have been largely overhyped, which I believe are mainly down to personal circumstances.

    His aggression, commitment, drive energy cannot be questioned.

    What can be questioned, though, is that he does not score enough goals and that his passes often go astray.

    If he sorts out those two factors, he will become a Celtic legend. If he doesn't, he'll be remembered as a poor mans Stan Petrov.

    I'm backing him to become a Celtic legend.
     
  20. Tictical_Genius

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    It's that time of year again....

    ...so, who would knock back £7M for 'Broonie' this time around?