Strachan has to go

im not patronising you,,but however you want to butter it crosas is a cdm and has been deployed solely in that role by wgs....

I believe we will win 4iar,,but you cannot blame fans for being worried about our recent horrendous form,,the blame is placed firmly at wgs' door as he cant motivate the players,,that is clear to see...

i dont mind trying a different formation but when you try this the personnel must suit the formation,,in my opinion he weakened both the cd and cm by deploying caldwell in there,,yes he done well defensively but going forward he's about as much use as * on a stallion........

 

ok so we should just blame the players for our poor run of form...

strikers will always miss good chances and these misses are more significant because we are not scoring,,skippys miss against the huns was an easier chance....

 

Well I'm sure you'll disagree but in my view, that particular DMC position is suited to Caldwell and going forward is not the issue at all. See Makelele for details. Creativity is left to Nakamura, Brown and the 3 strikers. That is the crux of the formation.

In a 4-4-2 Crosas would be ideal as the more defensive of the centre-two midfielders hence why people may pigeon-hole him as a defensive midfielder. There is a subtle difference and people may think I'm talking * but it sure does explain Strachans selection.

Yes Strachans motivition is to blame - solely? I wouldn't be so sure but I agree with you to some extent.

What I don't agree with is this criticism of formations and team selections which have absolutely nothing to do with the underlying problem which is the form or motivation of the primary strikers.

 

No of course the Manager is accountable along with the players. I was refering only to the Motherwell draw which appears to have been the last straw for many.

There has been a loss of form throughout which i'm sure will be rectified - there were certainly signs of improvement against Motherwell.

 

I cant agree with you as deploying a solely defensive cm has never brought much success(regarding results)to us..a modern cdm should be able to play advanced as well,,more a toure at barca or a senna at villareal..

in the games i've watched crosas he has been very impressive both defensively and offensively....

criticism of formation and selection is justified by the poor run of results,,how long does our poor run need to go on before people realise how bad it is..

why not give hutchy a run out? why not try a front 2 of jvoh and sammy instead of trying both with skippy all the time..

 

We have never played the 4-3-3 before so it can't be said it's never gotten us results. It can be effective as was shown in the past fwe years by certain teams.

Can't argue there but as I've said before in that formation Caldwell is a better option. In a 4-4-2 of course Crosas would be better.

I can't understand in the slightest people criticising the 4-3-3 after 1 or 2 games. The formation was not to blame. The forwards were. And it's ok in hindsight to say "why not try *" up front, but pre-match I think the correct selections was made.

 

to be honest mate i thought we were average against the well and to a lot of people it seemed like a good performance because of the crap we've been served in recent months...

we really must put up a challenge starting tommorow and only a drubbing of st mirren will appease the majority,,a good performance is vital for the sqauds morale...

 

caldwells deployment in that role has'nt brought us success wether it be in a 5 man mid or as at well a 3 man mid,,you cant argue with the poor results this option has afforded us....

both selection and formation did'nt work at well because we never won the game...you say the forwards were to blame but it was wgs who selected them,,there for his selection never worked...i thought pre-match wgs' selections were wrong and what happened.....

 

What do u base this on? that strachan will win 4 ina row? past achievements are exactly that PAST achievements. Im sorry but if we're were always going on past achievements them why weren't we in the last 16 again or why haven't we been to another major european final or why haven't we done another treble? the past is the past and at present we are 2nd in the league after squandering a seven point lead, we are effectively playing like a 6th place team. u could put the blame solely on the fact that our strikers arent scoring but neither are our midfielders, our defence arent keeping enough clean sheets, tactics have been woefulaying our best defender in midfield, favouritism fo players who arent performing : JVOH, SAMMY. Countless in-house squabblings with several players: Mcgeady, naylor, donati. im sorry but to me it sounds like strachans rein has come to an end or atleast when this season finishes it will i think so anyway

 

Aye your right - sack the manager, sack the board, shift the stadium, lose the hoops, our Captains * (get rid), bring back O'Neill, sack the * physio and the lousy girls at the gates. Don't like the Celtic FC shop either get rid of that and sack JVoH for missing a sitter the other night.

Yes I've based that previous statement on 3 in a row and we are currently equal on top with Rangers with 1 OF to go. I have faith in Celtic and my team - you obviously do not.

 

were did i say all of the stuff u mentioned above? i was simply trying to point out what our current predicament is, u however seemed to just talk *. i suppose looking at a certain situation with common sense means having no faith, to you. Your right JVOH has been playing great for along time, scored more goals that i seemed to forget. poor old zuraszki scored hella lot of goals in his first season so why was he effectively sacked then? not performing maybe?

 

We have no passion at the moment, I have witnessed some bad Celtic teams but I would be hard pushed to see a team less passionate than the team has been over the past 6 months. Passion is something that should be demanded at Celtic Park no matter how good or bad the team is and sadly wgs team has no passion at all.
I watched the game against the huns again when I came home, watching Strachan with McCoist and that rat McDowell before the game not only made me feel sick but should have gave us all an insight into why we have no passion. I am not asking for the managers to hate each other but Mr Stein was friends with some of the huns management and never had a wee friendly conversation before the game.
Give us the passion back give us Willie McStay and Neil Lennon.

 

Bar the last line, I agree. Well said.

 

I agree, Keane's temperament would be a time bomb in Glasgow and neither do I think he has done enough in management to merit the job.

I don't think anyone is demanding that we go out there spending fortunes on players but I do think there is absolutely no question that we could, and should, have more quality on the park.

I'd love to know what the bonuses being paid to the directors amount to, more than we spent in January per chance ?

 

i think we would all be very interested in finding that out mate i think

 

I haven't got a clue what the directors were paid bonus-wise and obviously it shouldn't be incredibly excessive compared to our transfer dealings. Is this info not made clear on the annual report as it is in my companies?

Seeing the way companies in the financial sector have been dishing out bonuses nationwide I think there is a problem. However until we find out anything for certain it's a bit of a moot point assuming that directors have been overpaid.

 

Here we go again Mike tells people they have said things which they clearly haven't said. Where do I ASSUME they have been overpaid ?

I didn't say that the bonuses were 'excessive', I said I'd love to know what they amount to and asked if it amounts to more than we spent on players in January.

I'm sure some of out financial experts on the forum could enlighten us.

 

January was never a window where we were going to spend big. If a good deal came along we would have taken it but none came. Anyone expecting the club to spend over the odds for players that dont add alot to our squad needs their head checked.

All the money that each board member earns is in the annual reports if you want to see what they earn

 

Huszti went to Zenit for £2.5M we could afford that. He also said he would be willing to come here. The truth is the club wanted him on a free so we lost out.

 

Do you know what bonuses they received for the financial results ?

So do you also think our 'bid' for Fletcher was a red herring if 'January was never a window where we were going to spend big' ? (because an alleged bid of £2.5m is indeed big for us).